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How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

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Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

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TFA says "More Spell On You" was cleared.

No need to be rude. The video itself implies that the sample wasn't cleared. I wouldn't expect everyone who saw this post to watch the video AND read the whole thing. Still, you're right of course.

Rude?

Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

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"Anyone can put a urinal on the wall and call it art" I'm not sure this is too far from the point of duschamp's piece, which is that you can "put anything on a pedastal" and the "sign it", and as long as it's done by someone with a certain "aura", such an act becomes transformative. The "wall" and the "pedastal" need not be taken literally, IMHO. There is a whole "deconstruct the art gallery" theme that followed. Thi…

If I recall correctly Andy Warhol used to do exactly this (sign everyday items, including urinals). He called it "ready made art." I want to say "see also: Banksy", but I don't know if that idea is completely thought out.

I want to say "see also: Banksy", but I don't know if that idea is completely thought out.

Ha ha. Here's a quick roadmap =D

Junk on a pedastal >Duchamp

white cube > makes junk look good

mass produced junk (for the white cube) > Warhol [0,1]

who needs a gallery? just pile junk outside > richard long [2,3]

who needs order?... junk-just-piled...in-a-gallery > Various [4,4.5]

Someone elses junk/pile, already outside?> Banksy [5,6,7]

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[0] http://coca-cola-art.com/2008/11/15/andy-warhol-moment-fame-...

[1] http://glgvisualculture.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/warhol-b...

[2] http://www.kcrw.com/etc/programs/at/at120524land_art_at_moca

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Long_%28artist%29

[4] http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/how...

[4.5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appropriation_%28art%29

[5] http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/browbeat/2013/1...

[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_art

Its worth noting that when poor people (eg, homeless) pile junk outside...its called vandalism.[#,##] When rich, white people do it...its put in a museum. The confusion of vandalism/and art making...is the origin of s0-called "street art".

[7] http://fineprintnyc.com/images/blog/banksy/better-out-than-i...

[#] http://news.yahoo.com/homeless-man-who-had-been-living-in-wa...

[##] The origins of the vandalism / art dichotomy more correctly stem from the work of (poor, black) people...ie, graffiti artists...not to suggest they were homeless...my apologies for the "confusion in the allusion", above.

Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

#53
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See also this great recreation of a Prodigy track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5Dn-WaElI

ehehe this is is sick. at least they used more than 1 sample, lol. i gotta figure out ableton.... i use it but mainly to process live tracks with max. WHY DONT I USE MY SAMPLING SOFTWARE FOR SAMPLING GAH

also... <3 the sprite cameos

Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

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post #52
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I recall correctly Andy Warhol used to do exactly this (sign everyday items, including urinals). He called it "ready made art." I want to say "see also: Banksy", but I don't know if that idea is completely thought out.

I want to say "see also: Banksy", but I don't know if that idea is completely thought out. Ha ha. Here's a quick roadmap =D Junk on a pedastal >Duchamp white cube > makes junk look good mass produced junk (for the white cube) > Warhol [0,1] who needs a gallery? just pile junk outside > richard long [2,3] who needs order?... junk-just-piled...in-a-gallery > Various [4,4.5] Someone elses junk/pile, already outside?> Ba…

Excellent post, thanks for all those references. Regarding your last sentence, you're right in terms of the actual product, but in art (or at least modern art) it's often the intention behind the product that is important part. In that sense there is a huge difference between what a homeless person does and what a "white person" does, (as you describe it.)

The homeless person is making a mess, the white person is making a statement.

^^^ I'll just put an aside here: I know you were being hyperbolic, but these are obviously quite bad choices; realistically, the homeless person just needs a place to put things. You really want "vandals" and "artists" rather than "homeless people" and "white people."

That said, it simply begins the whole discussion on whether art should be objectively pleasant/obvious/etc... "what is art", we could go on and on.

But I think it's quite well understood these days that there is a lot more to a piece of art than what is in front of your eyes. The message, background, and intention are everything.

As I said though, calling them vandals and artists is the interesting part, since as you point out, the whole street art movement deliberately blurs the line.

Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No need to be rude. The video itself implies that the sample wasn't cleared. I wouldn't expect everyone who saw this post to watch the video AND read the whole thing. Still, you're right of course.

Rude?

Yes, surprisingly, using an acronym like "The Fucking Article" might be construed as rude in certain circles.

Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

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" More Spell On You " was actually produced by Daniel Vangarde (a.k.a Thomas Bangalter's father). It might be the reason why Daft Punk were able to avoid legal complications.

Do you actually need any kind of licensing or permission to sample 10 seconds of a song? Especially when the end result sounds nothing like the original

Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to say "see also: Banksy", but I don't know if that idea is completely thought out. Ha ha. Here's a quick roadmap =D Junk on a pedastal >Duchamp white cube > makes junk look good mass produced junk (for the white cube) > Warhol [0,1] who needs a gallery? just pile junk outside > richard long [2,3] who needs order?... junk-just-piled...in-a-gallery > Various [4,4.5] Someone elses junk/pile, already outside?> Ba…

Excellent post, thanks for all those references. Regarding your last sentence, you're right in terms of the actual product, but in art (or at least modern art) it's often the intention behind the product that is important part. In that sense there is a huge difference between what a homeless person does and what a "white person" does, (as you describe it.) The homeless person is making a mess, the white person is mak…

Ah, fair points. I added an extra comment above.

Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I recall correctly Andy Warhol used to do exactly this (sign everyday items, including urinals). He called it "ready made art." I want to say "see also: Banksy", but I don't know if that idea is completely thought out.

Readymades were a Duchamp thing completely. Warhol was influenced by them (and Duchamp in general), but he didn't call his work by that term, regardless of similarities in method or concept. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Readymades_of_Marcel_Duchamp

It's been a long time since, I read it, but in Bob Colacello's biography[1][2], I thought he mentioned that Warhol did create (or at least _refer to_) items as "ready made art", without (if I recall correctly) reference to Duchamp.

But I could be mistaken.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Colacello [2] http://www.amazon.com/Holy-Terror-Andy-Warhol-Close/dp/08154...

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