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How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

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Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

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" More Spell On You " was actually produced by Daniel Vangarde (a.k.a Thomas Bangalter's father). It might be the reason why Daft Punk were able to avoid legal complications.

TFA says "More Spell On You" was cleared.

No need to be rude. The video itself implies that the sample wasn't cleared. I wouldn't expect everyone who saw this post to watch the video AND read the whole thing. Still, you're right of course.

Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That one is a lot more enlightening as to the creative process for this kind of music. (Of course the prodigy didn't do it like that, all point and click. There would have been a lot more twiddling of knobs and generally wigging out with actual hardware.)

IIRC, the Prodigy's Liam claimed to have written one album in bed using Propellorheads' Reason (then moved to the studio to finish off in pro-tools). I know I've done stuff just point and click on the train home from work in both ableton live and Reason. It's not quite as fluid as having a real keyboard (or other instruments around), but it is completely doable.

I think that's more the later stuff. Fat of the land certainly sounds like it was composed lying down.

Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

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> Anyone can put a urinal on the wall and call it art I normally don't read Slate because of stuff like this; apparently it was a mistake to give them another chance.

Way to take that quote way out of context. You make it sound like the Slate writer is supporting the quote, when it seems to me like he's arguing against it.

> A lot of people will see this video as proof of how building songs from samples takes a keen ear and a lot of skill: You’re not just “stealing” something, you're transforming it. Others will see it as proof of the opposite: Anyone can put a urinal on the wall and call it art. Of course, those people didn’t put a urinal on the wall, and they aren’t Daft Punk.

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Nitpicking, but that comment in the closing paragraph is jarring: "Anyone can put a urinal on the wall and call it art". It's clearly a reference to Marcel Duchamp's Fountain - a key work in the argument of what is and isn't art. However, that urinal, and its reproductions, were pointedly never mounted on a wall, but flat on a pedestal where it couldn't be used. It's like the author had heard the phrase but didn't kn…

"Anyone can put a urinal on the wall and call it art" I'm not sure this is too far from the point of duschamp's piece, which is that you can "put anything on a pedastal" and the "sign it", and as long as it's done by someone with a certain "aura", such an act becomes transformative. The "wall" and the "pedastal" need not be taken literally, IMHO. There is a whole "deconstruct the art gallery" theme that followed. Thi…

If I recall correctly Andy Warhol used to do exactly this (sign everyday items, including urinals). He called it "ready made art."

I want to say "see also: Banksy", but I don't know if that idea is completely thought out.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Anyone can put a urinal on the wall and call it art" I'm not sure this is too far from the point of duschamp's piece, which is that you can "put anything on a pedastal" and the "sign it", and as long as it's done by someone with a certain "aura", such an act becomes transformative. The "wall" and the "pedastal" need not be taken literally, IMHO. There is a whole "deconstruct the art gallery" theme that followed. Thi…

If I recall correctly Andy Warhol used to do exactly this (sign everyday items, including urinals). He called it "ready made art." I want to say "see also: Banksy", but I don't know if that idea is completely thought out.

Readymades were a Duchamp thing completely. Warhol was influenced by them (and Duchamp in general), but he didn't call his work by that term, regardless of similarities in method or concept.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Readymades_of_Marcel_Duchamp

Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

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Nitpicking, but that comment in the closing paragraph is jarring: "Anyone can put a urinal on the wall and call it art". It's clearly a reference to Marcel Duchamp's Fountain - a key work in the argument of what is and isn't art. However, that urinal, and its reproductions, were pointedly never mounted on a wall, but flat on a pedestal where it couldn't be used. It's like the author had heard the phrase but didn't kn…

Or the author saw it in a TV show or film. There's an episode of the old show, "My Name is Earl" which shows an art gallery and a urinal mounted on the wall. (Earl's brother Randy uses it and then comments how it doesn't flush.) That episode has been shown on TBS in the past week, so the author might have seen it.

Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

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Not how the song was made, 'One more time' was released in 2000 but Ableton 1 in 2001. Nevertheless, ableton is an amazing piece of software and always fun to recreate songs http://www.whosampled.com/Daft-Punk/One-More-Time/

It was made "with these samples, in this order, from this song". Not made "with this specific software".

Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

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Not how the song was made, 'One more time' was released in 2000 but Ableton 1 in 2001. Nevertheless, ableton is an amazing piece of software and always fun to recreate songs http://www.whosampled.com/Daft-Punk/One-More-Time/

It was made "with these samples, in this order, from this song". Not made "with this specific software".

> YouTube user SadowickProduction gives a step-by-step breakdown of how Daft Punk built the basic backing track for “One More Time,” using Eddie Johns’ “More Spell on You"

I think we can agree that overanalyzing a hastily-posted article is pointless.

Re: How Daft Punk Created One of Their Most Famous Samples

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That one is a lot more enlightening as to the creative process for this kind of music. (Of course the prodigy didn't do it like that, all point and click. There would have been a lot more twiddling of knobs and generally wigging out with actual hardware.)

IIRC, the Prodigy's Liam claimed to have written one album in bed using Propellorheads' Reason (then moved to the studio to finish off in pro-tools). I know I've done stuff just point and click on the train home from work in both ableton live and Reason. It's not quite as fluid as having a real keyboard (or other instruments around), but it is completely doable.

It's perfectly doable to create good sample based tracks in Reason. But you couldn't finish and master something of the standard of a Prodigy track on that alone.

I once saw Liam walking along the street of Sarm studios around the time that 'Always outnumbered never outgunned' must have been in production: http://www.sarmstudios.com/ - I assume he came out of there. It's a touch more advanced setup than Reason ;) Although if I had to guess which album he made on Reason I reckon it's that one.

I doubt the latest album 'Invaders Must Die' was done on Reason alone because of the quality of the synths used. Although again he could have just programmed the rough idea on Reason and then used the midi-notes to drive high-end synth.

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