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Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Could you recommend a good place online to order good "tea"? I'd seriously like to try some to get a sense of what real tea is suppose to taste like.

DAVIDsTEA is also good, they have a few retail locations around. https://www.davidstea.com/ https://www.davidstea.com/store-locator $20 for 250g (1lb) of earl grey tea, for example.

a pound is 450g

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Hang on, can you explain this to a European? How can something be legal and illegal?!

Isn't that precisely the situation of marijuana in the Netherlands?

Almost but not exactly.

The situation in the Netherlands is more complicated. Technically it's still illegal, however it's effectively decriminalised for personal use. Small amounts found on you (less than 5 grams) will not be prosecuted. No more than 5 grams may be sold to one person in one transaction. You must be over 18. 'Coffee shops' should not cause any trouble, drugs may not be advertised and the mayor can order a 'coffee shop' to be shut down.

More recently (2012) these coffee shops have also been ordered to close their doors to foreigners, and there's a proposal to classify very potent (over 15% TCH) marijuana as hard drugs.

Things keep changing so who knows what will happen in the next few years.

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Colorado, unlike a large number of US states, seems to take crazy things like simple economics and overwhelmingly positive scientific research into account when drafting laws. Here in the south we prefer to use 1950's mores, Jim Crow era law enforcement priorities and 3000 year old Judean religious texts when writing our laws. Bravo Colorado!

> ...and 3000 year old Judean religious texts... FWIW there's nothing in the Bible about throwing people in jail for alcohol (still baffled the US ever passed alcohol prohibition) or drugs. I'd argue against prohibition on Christian grounds as well as other grounds.

Your first mistake is in your assumption that Christianity-based legislation and social behavior in general have anything to do with what's in the Bible.

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The same profit margins exist for tobacco and alcohol, especially cities like NYC, but there are relatively few bootleggers in both markets. I think the legal risk significantly offsets the increase in price from taxation. But then again, cannabis differs from tobacco and alcohol in many ways in that an underground market has become highly developed. It will indeed be interesting to see...

There's also the consumer component. How many people would buy unbranded non-shrinkwrapped cigarettes off the back of a truck?

As it turns out, plenty!

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/nyregion/05loosie.html?pag...

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I'm curious what happens to the people who were surviving on the cash from selling it illegally. Some of them are poor slobs. Some of them are organized crime. Are they just going to try to sell it at a lower price since the police cannot tell where you got it from and might not even care anymore? Tax savings alone radically reduces the price.

When I was in Seattle this summer, there were dozens of people selling it in the park by Pike Place. I asked one of them what he was going to do when recreational marijuana was legalized, and he said "keep sellin'!"

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This is intellectually lazy reasoning. The existence of people who believe something does not make what they believe true. Realize that the two statements: "Here in the south we [often] use [...] 3000 year old Judean religious texts when writing our [drug] laws." "...there's nothing in the Bible about throwing people in jail for alcohol" are not necessarily contradictory. People can claim to justify what they believe…

You are not getting it. I am not saying they are right. I am saying that they exist. To them, their religious text do condemn alcohol. Your personal interpretation of the religious texts cannot be taken as fact. Whether or not they are right is something for you to argue about with other Christians. They think that they are correct just as much as you think that you are correct. Religious bickering, film at '11.

There are not. There are no people in the world, not one, who oppose alcohol because they have read the Bible and concluded that the Bible forbids alcohol consumption.

There are people who oppose alcohol for other reasons and who claim the Bible says something other than what it says, but it is nonsense to claim they got their position from the Bible.

There's plenty of evil stupid crazy shit in the Bible, but endorsement of prohibition just isn;t there.

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I wonder what the web-based POS system they are using in that photo

My employer, MMJMenu :)

Awesome. As the marijuana industry grows, so to will the industry for infrastructure supporting it, especially for compliance. I've been saying this for years. Cool to see a company executing on this opportunity.

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I wonder what the web-based POS system they are using in that photo

My employer, MMJMenu :)

Awesome. As the marijuana industry grows, so to will the industry for infrastructure supporting it, especially for compliance. I've been saying this for years. Cool to see a company executing on this opportunity.

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I imagine that since part of the customer base is underage, the illegal market will still exist.

Are there illegal markets for booze and tobacco?

Moonshining is on the rise! In my travels in the south last year, I encountered many people drinking and selling corn whiskey, especially in the form of Apple Pie liquor.

Another anecdote: at my high school there were several people involved in a ring of cigarette carton theft, who would then sell cartons at the school for inflated prices.

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There's still significant risk in grow operations because it's still a federal crime. The Obama administration has chosen not to enforce that law for the time being, but that can change on a moment's notice, and is likely to change if a conservative attains office (which will probably happen in 2016). Furthermore, even when done legally, there is significant regulatory burden on a state-sanctioned grow. You're correc…

Hang on, can you explain this to a European? How can something be legal and illegal?!

To put it in plain terms, there are multiple groups of guys with guns, and each group follows different orders.
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