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Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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post #27

I'm curious what happens to the people who were surviving on the cash from selling it illegally. Some of them are poor slobs. Some of them are organized crime. Are they just going to try to sell it at a lower price since the police cannot tell where you got it from and might not even care anymore? Tax savings alone radically reduces the price.

I imagine that since part of the customer base is underage, the illegal market will still exist.

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in this discussion in the media, out of all the millions of words that are going to be written about pot legalization in WA and CO over the next few weeks, how many words are going to be devoted to the fact that in the states of washington and colorado pot was legalized because the citizens of those states are able to create their own laws?

Very few words will be devoted to that aspect of it, and those corporate media articles that do discuss it will speak negatively of it.

And because the media will not bring it up much, neither will comments online do so.

Well, except for my comments.

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>> "“This is our dream,” said Kirstin Knouse, 24, who flew here from Chicago with her husband, Tristan, to take their first-ever marijuana vacation." And there's some people already ruining it. I believe Amsterdam had this same problem. Drug tourism is not something cities want for many obvious reasons.

I understand the sentiment, but you forgot to include the rest of the paragraph: >> She said that she suffered from seizures and fibromyalgia, and her husband from post-traumatic stress, but that the couple had not been able to get medical marijuana at home. “We’re thinking about moving here because of it,” she said. Maybe they're just making up excuses, but doesn't sound like these are a couple of 20 year olds just…

I skimmed the article and have to admit I missed that part. My issue was tourism for the sake of getting high - which clearly doesn't apply here.

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, this is the opposite of ruining it. Cities love to have tourists come, spend money, use hotels, etc

Yes but people who come explicitly for the drugs don't tend to be the best tourists. While not everyone will cause trouble there will undoubtedly be a few. It just depends on whether the towns are happy to put up with a few stoned idiots roaming the streets causing trouble for the extra money it brings in from the people not causing trouble.

Perhaps there will be an issue with local convenience stores running out of snacks, but I don't imagine marijuana vacations to be very raucous affairs. Also, marijuana isn't exactly rare or expensive anywhere in the US, odds are if you're going to get on a plane and head to Colorado for weed you will also spend a lot of dollars on other stuff. It should be a great boon for the economies of CO and WA.

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post #3

"Skeptical federal authorities are also paying attention. Although marijuana remains illegal under federal law, the Justice Department has given a tentative approval for Colorado and Washington to move ahead with regulating marijuana. But it warned that federal officials could intervene if the state regulations failed to keep the drug away from children, drug cartels or federal property, and out of other states." I h…

I would be more concerned about federal authorities going in regardless of how well state regulations are working, just because some far-right politician needs to show voters how tough-on-crime he is.

Re: Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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post #27

I'm curious what happens to the people who were surviving on the cash from selling it illegally. Some of them are poor slobs. Some of them are organized crime. Are they just going to try to sell it at a lower price since the police cannot tell where you got it from and might not even care anymore? Tax savings alone radically reduces the price.

This has already been tested with the medical setup. Many retail buyers continued to purchase their cannabis the way they were before, from their friends. That system had been in place for such a long time that people didn't feel the desire or need to change. Growers also found dispensaries to be a ready new group of wholesale buyers.

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post #7

Here's to the great idea of Federalism, and hoping that Colorado and Washington show everyone else the way forward.

federalism, in reality, is really better exemplified by the unelected federal judges from ivy league law schools who decide the way we live our lives.

That is really what federalism is.

Democracy is what happens when the citizens of colorado and washington create their own laws to live by.

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post #41
post #27

I'm curious what happens to the people who were surviving on the cash from selling it illegally. Some of them are poor slobs. Some of them are organized crime. Are they just going to try to sell it at a lower price since the police cannot tell where you got it from and might not even care anymore? Tax savings alone radically reduces the price.

I imagine that since part of the customer base is underage, the illegal market will still exist.

Are there illegal markets for booze and tobacco?

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post #14

FYI, why the man in the current lede photo is, well, at the top of the story: his purchase is a symbolic one, as he's a Iraq War veteran with PTSD http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/1/5263314/Sean-Azzariti-first...

It's disgraceful that our Veterans are treated the way they are. I have a few acquaintance who served several tours in Iraq and Afghanistan and the only thing that's allowed them to "reintegrate" back into peaceful civilian life has been illicit cannabis use. They live in Colorado so I'm hoping today is a great one for them.

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post #30

Does anyone know if Colorado is enforcing seed traceability? That is one of the rules according to Washington's I-502 ( http://www.liq.wa.gov/publications/Marijuana/I-502/I-502_Dra... crtl-f "Traceability"). Theoretically, that means the Feds would be able to know where the pot came from if it was found out of state. If implemented effectively, that would negate some of the worry about the product ending up in the wr…

Plants can be grafted one onto another, sometimes cross-species. You can graft Cannabis onto grape vines for example. Pro-growers can pretty much maintain the exact "same" plant for generations of plants. Obviously this doesn't change the DNA "fingerprint" of the graft but it just shows the "seed to customer" tracing is a meaningless regulation.

Indeed, most growers 'clone' their plants as a propagation technique (cuttings). This style, growing a mother plant from seed and then taking hundreds of cuttings which grow into full size plants, ensures consistency and is faster than starting each plant from seed. Growers often swap trimmings rather than seeds, and they're sold in dispensaries.
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