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Colorado Stores Throw Open Their Doors to Pot Buyers

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Post by davidandgoliath »

lostlogin wrote: post #24
k-mcgrady wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes but people who come explicitly for the drugs don't tend to be the best tourists. While not everyone will cause trouble there will undoubtedly be a few. It just depends on whether the towns are happy to put up with a few stoned idiots roaming the streets causing trouble for the extra money it brings in from the people not causing trouble.

The short time I spent in Amsterdam makes me agree with you. Stoned (and other highs), wondering around acting inappropriately and causing trouble.

And drunks? We all seem to ignore the droves of them wandering around causing trouble. I've never had anyone high on weed bother me for anything but cookies.. drunks on the other hand, tend to be violent &/or obnoxious, destructive, and much more.

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Post by dominotw »

ck2 wrote: post #27

I'm curious what happens to the people who were surviving on the cash from selling it illegally. Some of them are poor slobs. Some of them are organized crime. Are they just going to try to sell it at a lower price since the police cannot tell where you got it from and might not even care anymore? Tax savings alone radically reduces the price.

Apparently its way way more cheap to buy it illegally(for now atleast). I am guessing it would not make much difference to those people.

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Post by jdkuepper »

ck2 wrote: post #27

I'm curious what happens to the people who were surviving on the cash from selling it illegally. Some of them are poor slobs. Some of them are organized crime. Are they just going to try to sell it at a lower price since the police cannot tell where you got it from and might not even care anymore? Tax savings alone radically reduces the price.

The same profit margins exist for tobacco and alcohol, especially cities like NYC, but there are relatively few bootleggers in both markets. I think the legal risk significantly offsets the increase in price from taxation. But then again, cannabis differs from tobacco and alcohol in many ways in that an underground market has become highly developed. It will indeed be interesting to see...

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Post by philangist »

ernestipark wrote: post #25
k-mcgrady wrote: post #15

>> "“This is our dream,” said Kirstin Knouse, 24, who flew here from Chicago with her husband, Tristan, to take their first-ever marijuana vacation." And there's some people already ruining it. I believe Amsterdam had this same problem. Drug tourism is not something cities want for many obvious reasons.

I understand the sentiment, but you forgot to include the rest of the paragraph: >> She said that she suffered from seizures and fibromyalgia, and her husband from post-traumatic stress, but that the couple had not been able to get medical marijuana at home. “We’re thinking about moving here because of it,” she said. Maybe they're just making up excuses, but doesn't sound like these are a couple of 20 year olds just…

Not that there's nothing wrong with that either.

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Post by mrtksn »

ck2 wrote: post #27

I'm curious what happens to the people who were surviving on the cash from selling it illegally. Some of them are poor slobs. Some of them are organized crime. Are they just going to try to sell it at a lower price since the police cannot tell where you got it from and might not even care anymore? Tax savings alone radically reduces the price.

why not? it would be just like selling contraband cigarettes for the small guy. the big shots probably can just move to another market since they have a know how of dealing illegal stuff.

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Post by thedudemabry »

heynk wrote: post #30

Does anyone know if Colorado is enforcing seed traceability? That is one of the rules according to Washington's I-502 ( http://www.liq.wa.gov/publications/Marijuana/I-502/I-502_Dra... crtl-f "Traceability"). Theoretically, that means the Feds would be able to know where the pot came from if it was found out of state. If implemented effectively, that would negate some of the worry about the product ending up in the wr…

The state has implemented a seed-to-sale tracking system called MITS: http://www.mymits.com/

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Post by jonknee »

plorkyeran wrote: post #28
paul wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Napa and Sonoma don't seem to mind the alcohol tourism.

Not really an equivalent scenario. If all you want to do is get drunk, there's no reason to go to Napa to do it, so while the average level of intoxication is probably higher, it's much less so that it would be if it was the only place you could legally buy alcohol.

It's not just a few coffee shops, Colorado and Washington are big states. They will very much welcome tourism and the dollars that brings in. The cannabis cup was already in Denver and I don't recall hearing complaints about all the money it brought to Colorado.

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Post by code_duck »

ojbyrne wrote: post #9
vyrotek wrote: post #3

"Skeptical federal authorities are also paying attention. Although marijuana remains illegal under federal law, the Justice Department has given a tentative approval for Colorado and Washington to move ahead with regulating marijuana. But it warned that federal officials could intervene if the state regulations failed to keep the drug away from children, drug cartels or federal property, and out of other states." I h…

All of those things were possible with medical marijuana.

Yes, it would be really nice if people and journalists commenting on this would understand and acknowledge that cannabis has been widely available legally in Colorado for years, both through legal home growing and at retail outlets.

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Post by sliverstorm »

vyrotek wrote: post #3

"Skeptical federal authorities are also paying attention. Although marijuana remains illegal under federal law, the Justice Department has given a tentative approval for Colorado and Washington to move ahead with regulating marijuana. But it warned that federal officials could intervene if the state regulations failed to keep the drug away from children, drug cartels or federal property, and out of other states." I h…

It's a grand old tradition, ain't it.

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Post by wavefunction »

heynk wrote: post #30

Does anyone know if Colorado is enforcing seed traceability? That is one of the rules according to Washington's I-502 ( http://www.liq.wa.gov/publications/Marijuana/I-502/I-502_Dra... crtl-f "Traceability"). Theoretically, that means the Feds would be able to know where the pot came from if it was found out of state. If implemented effectively, that would negate some of the worry about the product ending up in the wr…

Plants can be grafted one onto another, sometimes cross-species. You can graft Cannabis onto grape vines for example.

Pro-growers can pretty much maintain the exact "same" plant for generations of plants.

Obviously this doesn't change the DNA "fingerprint" of the graft but it just shows the "seed to customer" tracing is a meaningless regulation.

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