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Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

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Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

#12

No refunds? Really?!? The guy who sold me my bong has a better fucking return policy than that.

The main appeal of the game was apparently the multi-player, which isn't going to be that great if nobody bought the thing. You can't expect a refund for this type of purchase from either Steam or the studio that developed it, that is ridiculous. They shouldn't have removed it from people's libraries though, and the developer should have released one last patch that disabled the DRM and let you run your own server.

Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

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post #9

I'm pretty sure their EULA mentions that you agree to such terms, so there is not much buyers can legally do. The simple solution is to do a quick scan of the EULA( tools to help exists ) of the next game you would like to play for a longer period to and then if the it includes these ridiculous terms simply don't buy it.

The contractual legality of and superceding of consumer rights by videogame EULAs seems to vary on a country by country basis, if not province by province/state by state.

Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

#14
post #9

I'm pretty sure their EULA mentions that you agree to such terms, so there is not much buyers can legally do. The simple solution is to do a quick scan of the EULA( tools to help exists ) of the next game you would like to play for a longer period to and then if the it includes these ridiculous terms simply don't buy it.

Even if it's included in EULA, it doesn't mean that this would be allowed in a lot of jurisdictions. A lot of clauses from most EULA are not applicable everywhere.

I think there'd be a case in most european countries.

Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

#15

No refunds? Really?!? The guy who sold me my bong has a better fucking return policy than that.

The main appeal of the game was apparently the multi-player, which isn't going to be that great if nobody bought the thing. You can't expect a refund for this type of purchase from either Steam or the studio that developed it, that is ridiculous. They shouldn't have removed it from people's libraries though, and the developer should have released one last patch that disabled the DRM and let you run your own server.

Running your server is probably too much to ask for since their server is likely integrated ito many of their other systems and the code is probably something they want to keep out of public hands BUT I like your idea of one last patch for DRM free version. Online will no longer work but at least single player would.

Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

#16
post #14
post #9

I'm pretty sure their EULA mentions that you agree to such terms, so there is not much buyers can legally do. The simple solution is to do a quick scan of the EULA( tools to help exists ) of the next game you would like to play for a longer period to and then if the it includes these ridiculous terms simply don't buy it.

Even if it's included in EULA, it doesn't mean that this would be allowed in a lot of jurisdictions. A lot of clauses from most EULA are not applicable everywhere. I think there'd be a case in most european countries.

My point was that instead of getting screwed, you should not buy the game, this way you hurt them them most.

If they break some local laws what are you, the buyer, going to do really.

Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

#17

No refunds? Really?!? The guy who sold me my bong has a better fucking return policy than that.

The main appeal of the game was apparently the multi-player, which isn't going to be that great if nobody bought the thing. You can't expect a refund for this type of purchase from either Steam or the studio that developed it, that is ridiculous. They shouldn't have removed it from people's libraries though, and the developer should have released one last patch that disabled the DRM and let you run your own server.

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Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

#18

No refunds? Really?!? The guy who sold me my bong has a better fucking return policy than that.

The main appeal of the game was apparently the multi-player, which isn't going to be that great if nobody bought the thing. You can't expect a refund for this type of purchase from either Steam or the studio that developed it, that is ridiculous. They shouldn't have removed it from people's libraries though, and the developer should have released one last patch that disabled the DRM and let you run your own server.

Why can't people expect a refund? Why is that a ridiculous expectation?

Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

#19

There is a broader issue here than just gaming, too. Many high-end applications now have obnoxious DRM/copy protection schemes that require varying levels of Internet connectivity to work. I have asked a reseller about how this operates if the original developer of the $X,000/seat software my business relies on goes under, and they basically laughed my question off, saying that would never happen. I have also, in an…

yeah, ask the guy in 2007 if Lehman Brothers would go bankrupt next year, he would think you escaped mental clinic.

Re: Steam Removes Game 'Order Of War: Challenge' From User Libraries

#20

No refunds? Really?!? The guy who sold me my bong has a better fucking return policy than that.

The main appeal of the game was apparently the multi-player, which isn't going to be that great if nobody bought the thing. You can't expect a refund for this type of purchase from either Steam or the studio that developed it, that is ridiculous. They shouldn't have removed it from people's libraries though, and the developer should have released one last patch that disabled the DRM and let you run your own server.

Wrong link. Order of War still works, it was multiplayer version "Order of War: Challenge" that was shutdown. It was not available for sale since April, and it was removed from Steam in September.

http://www.steamprices.com/us/app/34670/order-of-war-challen...

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