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Why Microsoft's "Scroogled" Campaign Is Childish

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Re: Why Microsoft's "Scroogled" Campaign Is Childish

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> it was actually later proven that Bing brings many of it results from Google's Search engine This turned out to be a lie, right?

Lie is a strong word, it most it would mean someone claimed bing was stealing search results from google while knowing it was not true, rather then misinterpreting the data.

I do not remember such a case lying. Do you remember any other details like who uncovered that it was a lie or who made the report?

Re: Why Microsoft's "Scroogled" Campaign Is Childish

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I recently bought a laptop for my daughter this Christmas. I considered all makes and models and finally decided on a Dell running Windows 8. I looked closely at Chrome Books, but felt she would be at a disadvantage without Windows and Office. It cost more than the Chrome Books, but I felt it was the right choice. She can still use Google services if she likes and MS software and services as well. I thought it was the best, most versatile choice. Just my own personal experience, I can see the value in Chrome Books too.

Re: Why Microsoft's "Scroogled" Campaign Is Childish

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post #32

Well, in spite of the silliness of those commercials, lately I have been creeped out when I start getting blasted by adverts from all over the web based on something I recently searched on. Often times, I'll quickly look up something / fact check what I've read in an article (most recently was "longevity insurance" annuities and reverse mortgages), and now I'm getting a whole bunch of ads aimed at older / retired peo…

I know what you mean. It's the retargeting ads that bother me, mostly because I get so many for something I actually bought, not just something I went to their site, considered, and then didn't buy. Leave me alone now! (I'm looking at you, zappos)

For google ads, at least, you can click the "ad choices" button on the ad and clear the things it guesses about you (you can obviously also just delete the doubleclick cookie). I actually don't mind doubleclick ads so much (don't burn me at the stake) since they can't combine it with your google account information and I have depended on them for my source of income in the past, so I do wish they had a button for "clear retargeting ads" but left all the other demographic info in place.

Re: Why Microsoft's "Scroogled" Campaign Is Childish

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post #38
post #8

> it was actually later proven that Bing brings many of it results from Google's Search engine This turned out to be a lie, right?

IIRC it turned out to be a side effect of their "toolbar" data collection. If most people using googles toolbar would use bing they would see a similar effect. But calling it "they get search results from google" is stretching the truth. Of course why anyone would submit all their surf history to any of those big brother companies (M or G) in the first place is a complete mystery. But overall bing is not too bad. It'…

Ironically, Google's own toolbar(which was bundled by OEMs who took money from Google), sent people's web site visits even after configuring it to say no.

http://www.benedelman.org/news/012610-1.html

Re: Why Microsoft's "Scroogled" Campaign Is Childish

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post #32

Well, in spite of the silliness of those commercials, lately I have been creeped out when I start getting blasted by adverts from all over the web based on something I recently searched on. Often times, I'll quickly look up something / fact check what I've read in an article (most recently was "longevity insurance" annuities and reverse mortgages), and now I'm getting a whole bunch of ads aimed at older / retired peo…

Is there a way to turn that off? I don't mind the adwords ads since they sometimes help me find what I am looking for. They are useless, though, if they display ads for things I've searched for in the past.

Re: Why Microsoft's "Scroogled" Campaign Is Childish

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post #2

Do we really need an article to explain why it's childish? It's face-slappingly, consumer-insultingly childish.

Mostly hypocritical, however. "Look at how Google is spying on you! Here at Microsoft, we totally don't do such shenanigans. I swear on me mum, mate!"

The specific claim that they don't track users by phrases inside the texts of their emails does check out.

Re: Why Microsoft's "Scroogled" Campaign Is Childish

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post #32

Well, in spite of the silliness of those commercials, lately I have been creeped out when I start getting blasted by adverts from all over the web based on something I recently searched on. Often times, I'll quickly look up something / fact check what I've read in an article (most recently was "longevity insurance" annuities and reverse mortgages), and now I'm getting a whole bunch of ads aimed at older / retired peo…

One of my friends now gets large numbers of ads for schizophrenia medication.

You have to wonder how these kinds of things happen. Or perhaps Google knows something we don't...

Re: Why Microsoft's "Scroogled" Campaign Is Childish

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Yes, the campaign is childish, but so are the article's misrepresentations. For example:

(1) Google Docs - not Drive - does not have "nearly the same capabilities" as Office by any reasonable definition. FFS, they don't even seem to have proper support for custom paragraph styles, widow/orphan control, etc. There are certainly ways in which Google Docs improves over Office, especially wrt collaborative editing, but there are also massive gaps that make it almost unusable for anything medium-size or larger.

(2) Microsoft's characterization of Chromebooks as "useless without the internet" is not entirely wrong. Constant internet connectivity might be the norm everywhere the author has gone, but it's still not something one can rely on in every corner of the globe. That being the case, "suitable for use while traveling" really might not apply sometimes. By the author's own cited definition, Chromebooks - like the one I'm typing this on - might not be real laptops for many people.

In both cases, the author starts with a grain of truth and then destroys his own point with exaggeration. The piece would have been far more effective if he had stuck with the facts - which are damning enough - instead of letting his bias shine through.

Re: Why Microsoft's "Scroogled" Campaign Is Childish

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Great. I hope Microsoft goes after Google even more. SkyDrive blows away GDrive. Windows tablets are coming into their own right, while Android is pretty much "meh" these days. Google flails away aimlessly with their chromeOS strategy, all the while doing lots of evil (with Eric Schmidt on the board still how can it not).

Sorry for this utter lack of meaningful contribution, but I read this in my head in a Morty Seinfeld voice and laughed.

Re: Why Microsoft's "Scroogled" Campaign Is Childish

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> it was actually later proven that Bing brings many of its results from Google's search engine What's he talking about? Making this claim without a cite is annoying. Making copy-and-paste not work so I couldn't even copy and paste it here is even more annoying.

Read both sides of the story rather than just Google's accusations:

http://searchengineland.com/google-bing-is-cheating-copying-...

http://searchengineland.com/bing-why-googles-wrong-in-its-ac...

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