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Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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We are working with Google right now to resolve this. They’ve been really great, helping us identify changes we need to make. As if they don't know what they did. These guys are toxic. I'd ban them for a year.

> "These guys are toxic. I'd ban them for a year."

Wow, the hate is strong with this one.

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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So, the best lyric site by a mile no longer shows up in ordinary Google lyric searches. As a music fanatic, searching lyrics is something I do all day long every day, by the way - and when I search lyrics in Google, I really want to go to rap genius. Anyway, supposedly this degradation of Google had to happen to make a public example, and most of us are ok with it because the founders of RG are known to be kind of je…

You should try Bing for lyrics search. I've already made it the default engine on my phone.

Or, if you value privacy, you can use Duckduckgo.com which still ranks RapGenius plenty high.

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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post #53
post #13

We are working with Google right now to resolve this. They’ve been really great, helping us identify changes we need to make. As if they don't know what they did. These guys are toxic. I'd ban them for a year.

Seems toxic to lay such claims without getting to know someone personally. Have they done you wrong? Perhaps you are uninterested in rap music, perhaps you believe in staunch professionalism, but at least have respect for an individual's choice to live to their life as they please. Success isn't truly success unless you do it while being yourself. There is a reason you don't have the power to ban them for a year. Rap…

I'm sorry, did they not, with "malice aforethought", blatantly disregard Google's terms. And then brag about it? And, after being called on it, issue a not-really apology that basically said "fuck you, we do what we want"?

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do they depend on Google's mercy? What does Google provide them, that they must have and cannot be had elsewhere? To phrase differently and hint at what I am suggesting- if Google provides something that companies cannot live without, what did companies do before there was Google ?

>what did companies do before there was Google? They didn't.

They advertised.

Smaller companies seem to be replacing the "advertising dept." with "our rank on Google dept.", in which case it's not exactly Google's fault they are dependent on Google, any more than when a Craigslist scraper is dependent on Craigslist.

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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Google isn't the only way to access the internet. All this complaining of not being able to type "rap genius" in google to go to the site sounds real juvenile, doesn't even rise to first world problem status. Try typing rapgenius.com and using their search mechanism. These actions may stop some of their growth, but should not be a hinderance to anyone complaining here.

It wasn't brand search terms that they where monetizing - they where obviously targeting general rap related terms by doing some very dark hat SEO

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good thing google is public rather than private.

Do I need to explain how a publicly traded company is still private, or are you just being purposely obtuse?

Look at Googles multi class share structure and ask that Q again.

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

#67
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Still, the real story here is that almost all small businesses depend on the mercy of one giant corporation. This Google monstrosity / police man should be split up into smaller, competing search engines.

Why do they depend on Google's mercy? What does Google provide them, that they must have and cannot be had elsewhere? To phrase differently and hint at what I am suggesting- if Google provides something that companies cannot live without, what did companies do before there was Google ?

Before the search that we know of today, there were directories (see http://dmoz.org for example) where you submitted your site. Originally it was a list, then a hierarchal list, then there so many entries they let you search their database, then they crawl the web to find other sites, then they search the _content_ of other sites, so you can see how it evolved.

Web rings and pages of links to other sites were also common, basically what RG did, but more reciprocal.

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good thing google is public rather than private.

Do I need to explain how a publicly traded company is still private, or are you just being purposely obtuse?

I understand that Google is its own legal fiction. I don't see any inherent human rights issues in turning one piece of paper into two.

I think there could be some questions as to whether Google is engaging in anti-competitive behaviour in the way they use search revenues to undercut other competitors. Perhaps they are doing nothing wrong, perhaps they are doing something wrong, and perhaps an effective remedy to that is to split the company.

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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So, the best lyric site by a mile no longer shows up in ordinary Google lyric searches. As a music fanatic, searching lyrics is something I do all day long every day, by the way - and when I search lyrics in Google, I really want to go to rap genius. Anyway, supposedly this degradation of Google had to happen to make a public example, and most of us are ok with it because the founders of RG are known to be kind of je…

So why not just use Google to search rapgenious? I mean if you KNOW you want to go to rapgenius, and rapgenius's search isn't good. Just use google and tell google to search only rapgenius.

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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Rules are rules, but do they deserve a pardon?

No.

Yeah I guess you're right. Rap Genius' well-known brand aside, if they treat them differently to how they would penalize an unknown tiny site then that's a can of worms they won't be able to rid themselves of.
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