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Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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Post by llamataboot »

aroman wrote: post #15
flexie wrote: post #8

Still, the real story here is that almost all small businesses depend on the mercy of one giant corporation. This Google monstrosity / police man should be split up into smaller, competing search engines.

Frankly I think it's an inherently monopolistic industry. In the current state of affairs (i.e. web browser interfaces and mobile phone integration), it's quite inconvenient for people to switch up their search engine regularly, or even use multiple ones regularly. With say, supermarkets, it's pretty easy to shop at Acme one day, Trader Joes another, and Superfresh the third. Search engines aren't like this, or at le…

bang commands on DDG come pretty close. I use DDG as my primary search, but in reality I use about 20 different commands for specific searches on any given day, including quite a bit of google search and wolfram alpha. Not saying these commands will ever see wide use, but I find it a convenient platform for lots of different search engines.

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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Post by llamataboot »

HelloMcFly wrote: post #19
llamataboot wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, this is google enforcing a harsh penalty for one site to discourage other people from trying to game search which basically makes us all suffer through content farm links, etc.

I don't agree. I see the need for punishment of this kind of behavior, but removing the site from a Google search that seems to specifically be looking for that site is a bridge too far in my book.

It's pretty much the standard harsh google slapdown. Has happened to many other sites. I imagine they'll get out of jail sooner rather than later. It's meant as a punishment I think, not just a correction of the terms that they ranked for unethically.

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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Post by sliverstorm »

flexie wrote: post #8

Still, the real story here is that almost all small businesses depend on the mercy of one giant corporation. This Google monstrosity / police man should be split up into smaller, competing search engines.

Why do they depend on Google's mercy? What does Google provide them, that they must have and cannot be had elsewhere?

To phrase differently and hint at what I am suggesting- if Google provides something that companies cannot live without, what did companies do before there was Google?

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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Post by fleitz »

JHSheridan wrote: post #12
flexie wrote: post #8

Still, the real story here is that almost all small businesses depend on the mercy of one giant corporation. This Google monstrosity / police man should be split up into smaller, competing search engines.

Ever heard of Bing, DuckDuckGo, Yahoo, etc.? Google just does it better than anyone else at the moment. Now I'm not saying Google doesn't have a de facto monopoly, but I'm wary of anyone who says a private company should be forced to split. Should they be punished for being the most popular?

Good thing google is public rather than private.

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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Post by klrr »

sliverstorm wrote: post #23
flexie wrote: post #8

Still, the real story here is that almost all small businesses depend on the mercy of one giant corporation. This Google monstrosity / police man should be split up into smaller, competing search engines.

Why do they depend on Google's mercy? What does Google provide them, that they must have and cannot be had elsewhere? To phrase differently and hint at what I am suggesting- if Google provides something that companies cannot live without, what did companies do before there was Google ?

Google provide them users.

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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Post by steveklabnik »

sliverstorm wrote: post #23
flexie wrote: post #8

Still, the real story here is that almost all small businesses depend on the mercy of one giant corporation. This Google monstrosity / police man should be split up into smaller, competing search engines.

Why do they depend on Google's mercy? What does Google provide them, that they must have and cannot be had elsewhere? To phrase differently and hint at what I am suggesting- if Google provides something that companies cannot live without, what did companies do before there was Google ?

> Why do they depend on Google's mercy?

http://readwrite.com/2010/02/11/how_google_failed_internet_m...

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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Post by nathancahill »

sliverstorm wrote: post #23
flexie wrote: post #8

Still, the real story here is that almost all small businesses depend on the mercy of one giant corporation. This Google monstrosity / police man should be split up into smaller, competing search engines.

Why do they depend on Google's mercy? What does Google provide them, that they must have and cannot be had elsewhere? To phrase differently and hint at what I am suggesting- if Google provides something that companies cannot live without, what did companies do before there was Google ?

Google has been around since the beginning.

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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Post by sixQuarks »

my first instinct is to hate these guys, probably because I feel they are just doing an act. But going beyond my initial kneejerk reaction, I do have to admit they are doing something different (as far as their "act" goes). Game changers almost never go with the flow, so whether you hate them or love them, at least they're not following the crowds.

Re: Google Destroys Rap Genius’ Search Result Rankings As Punishment For SEO Spam

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Post by olalonde »

znowi wrote: post #13

We are working with Google right now to resolve this. They’ve been really great, helping us identify changes we need to make. As if they don't know what they did. These guys are toxic. I'd ban them for a year.

[...] to create what’s often the best search result.

Poor them, they created the best lyrics site in the world, they deserve to be the first search result! /sarcasm

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