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Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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hoytie wrote: post #51
jrockway wrote: post #4

It would be much better to have 100 more cars on the road during rush hour, right?

I think the situation would be drastically different if the buses didn't exist, for better or worse. Workers would make completely different choices in where they live, and it's not likely they would choose the same neighborhoods that the buses afford them the convenience of. And just maybe SV companies would change their highly suburban and unsustainable real estate policies. Just because 1 bus going form a to b is…

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Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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Post by anigbrowl »

mgraczyk wrote: post #55

Is it just me, or does the psuedo-intellectual/conspiratorial rhetoric used in this post make anybody else uncomfortable? I feel like class warfare tends to start with misplaced high-mindedness, as if there is an element of being "in the know" for those who take part in the violence. Obviously the author thought writing this way would help further his cause, so what does that say about the participants? Too uninforme…

Of course, it's agit-prop bullshit masquerading as reporting. Self-satisfied ideologues (of all political stripes) are nauseating people.

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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jessedhillon wrote: post #48

West Oakland is a traditionally black neighborhood that surrounds the Port of Oakland. It has been heavily gentrified, developed, and restructured over the past three decades. Now there is an upper class enclave that has been established near the West Oakland BART station, in Jack London, and in the city of Emeryville. Oh fuck you and your dreadlocks. There are only two photos on that page, so I don't definitively kn…

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Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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Post by bluedino »

null_ptr wrote: post #58

Gotta love “TECHIES: Your World Is Not Welcome Here” I find it hard to sympathize with a bunch of lazy thugs who do nothing to improve their situation. Engineering and white collar jobs in general have always paid well. Industries who are in demand even more so, and for just reason. Did similar protests happen in Detroit 50 years ago during the auto boom? Did unskilled rubes that do nothing all day put up banners say…

>> Did unskilled rubes that do nothing all day put up banners saying "Auto boys not welcome"?

'Auto boys' are/were unskilled rubes.

Whites weren't holding up signs saying 'blacks not welcome'. They just left. It was 50 years ago, after all.

edit: They were, up to a point.

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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Post by api »

unclebucknasty wrote: post #86
api wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"These are Burning Man hippies, self-styled artists, people who graduated from great schools with useless majors, and the usual constituent of the Bay Area's overprivileged poverty tourists: 20-30 y/o white kids from middle class families." That describes a huge fraction of today's protestors and activists, which is why despite many things in the world sucking I rarely take today's "activism" very seriously. It's mos…

But, how is it that we recognize "many things in the world sucking" and criticize today's activism as lacking; yet have not done more ourselves to reduce the world's suckage?

I used to live somewhere where I constantly saw these sorts of "activists" protesting: GMO foods, "chemtrails" (which probably don't exist), all kinds of trendy things to protest.

I never once saw them protesting for higher wages for the underprivileged, health care, or anything else that actually matters to poor people.

They were for the most part not poor. They were white middle class pseudo-artists engaged in an entertainment activity. I love the phrase "poverty tourism."

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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Post by gohrt »

jessedhillon wrote: post #48

West Oakland is a traditionally black neighborhood that surrounds the Port of Oakland. It has been heavily gentrified, developed, and restructured over the past three decades. Now there is an upper class enclave that has been established near the West Oakland BART station, in Jack London, and in the city of Emeryville. Oh fuck you and your dreadlocks. There are only two photos on that page, so I don't definitively kn…

So... we need to organize a working class resistence against the... pretend working class resistance?

Not even joking. If the imposter protestors make it acceptable for "civilized" folk to have a reactionary attitude against equality concerns, they will become a (perhaps unwitting) tool of oppression of the poor, who do have valid (if unvoiced) concerns.

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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Post by johnamaeda »

zach wrote: post #67
jessedhillon wrote: post #48

West Oakland is a traditionally black neighborhood that surrounds the Port of Oakland. It has been heavily gentrified, developed, and restructured over the past three decades. Now there is an upper class enclave that has been established near the West Oakland BART station, in Jack London, and in the city of Emeryville. Oh fuck you and your dreadlocks. There are only two photos on that page, so I don't definitively kn…

So it's hipsters versus nerds now? Has it come to this?

The problem is that a big corporation like Google gives less than it takes as of now, tax wise, and guarantees their employees a standard of living out of reach for most americans now, or the rest of the world for that matter.

A standard of living paid for, in part, by the very same taxes they manage to avoid, along with several other big corporations. Not to mention they are no stranger to the US government, and probably might have helped the very development of those formerly secret and hated programs, also with direct knowledge transfer http://cryptome.org/2013/08/assange-google-nsa.htm

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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Post by ritchiea »

jessedhillon wrote: post #48

West Oakland is a traditionally black neighborhood that surrounds the Port of Oakland. It has been heavily gentrified, developed, and restructured over the past three decades. Now there is an upper class enclave that has been established near the West Oakland BART station, in Jack London, and in the city of Emeryville. Oh fuck you and your dreadlocks. There are only two photos on that page, so I don't definitively kn…

It seems like you're correct in this case. Or at the very least there is no evidence for their implication that the protesters were black Oakland residents.

That said, let's not allow laziness on the part of the reporter who filed this story, and elective poor dreadlocked white kids to distract us from the real problem that is class disparity in the west. The elite live under different rules than the rest and the middle class is dwindling. That's way more important than bad reporting, which is just a footnote.

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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Post by bluedino »

kohanz wrote: post #20

The writing is strange and sounds very biased. The repeated reference to a kind young man , for example.

>> Many tech employees currently reside in these locations and have driven up the property values and rent prices, creating animosity, evictions, and poverty.

Damn Google employees. Causing poverty.

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