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Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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Post by hoytie »

jrockway wrote: post #4

It would be much better to have 100 more cars on the road during rush hour, right?

I think the situation would be drastically different if the buses didn't exist, for better or worse. Workers would make completely different choices in where they live, and it's not likely they would choose the same neighborhoods that the buses afford them the convenience of. And just maybe SV companies would change their highly suburban and unsustainable real estate policies. Just because 1 bus going form a to b is better than 100 cars going from a to b doesn't justify the policy of the buses or even demonstrate they're sustainable.

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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Post by api »

jessedhillon wrote: post #48

West Oakland is a traditionally black neighborhood that surrounds the Port of Oakland. It has been heavily gentrified, developed, and restructured over the past three decades. Now there is an upper class enclave that has been established near the West Oakland BART station, in Jack London, and in the city of Emeryville. Oh fuck you and your dreadlocks. There are only two photos on that page, so I don't definitively kn…

"These are Burning Man hippies, self-styled artists, people who graduated from great schools with useless majors, and the usual constituent of the Bay Area's overprivileged poverty tourists: 20-30 y/o white kids from middle class families."

That describes a huge fraction of today's protestors and activists, which is why despite many things in the world sucking I rarely take today's "activism" very seriously. It's mostly activism-as-entertainment for trustafarians.

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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Post by mgraczyk »

Is it just me, or does the psuedo-intellectual/conspiratorial rhetoric used in this post make anybody else uncomfortable? I feel like class warfare tends to start with misplaced high-mindedness, as if there is an element of being "in the know" for those who take part in the violence. Obviously the author thought writing this way would help further his cause, so what does that say about the participants? Too uninformed to know the difference? Too angry to care?

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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Post by 9999 »

altero wrote: post #38
anextio wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the bus is owned by a third party contractor. That does not count as Google's workplace.

And the office could be rented. I think it is clear that Google expect people to check emails and do 'work stuff', it was mentioned several times.

If you worked on a personal project on a Google bus (on your own laptop, without using their wifi), would Google be able to claim ownership?

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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Post by kkowalczyk »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #25
jrockway wrote: post #4

It would be much better to have 100 more cars on the road during rush hour, right?

By providing free transportation from SF Google employees are encouraged to live there. Why not live closer to work? It would probably result in a few more cars on the road but a lot of the employees would move closer to Google freeing up apartments for people who actually work at businesses in SF and HAVE to live there. NB: I have no stake in this, I like in Ireland.

1. Shortage of housing is even worse near Google campus than in SF

2. Angry mob or your opinions should not dictate where people choose to live.

I could offer many suggestions as to how you should live YOUR life to better suit MY goal and ideas, but I don't because that would be stupid.

You should choose a place to live that suits YOU the best and you should offer the same curtesy to others.

The "occupy Google bus" movement is straight-up bullying.

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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Post by null_ptr »

Gotta love “TECHIES: Your World Is Not Welcome Here”

I find it hard to sympathize with a bunch of lazy thugs who do nothing to improve their situation. Engineering and white collar jobs in general have always paid well. Industries who are in demand even more so, and for just reason. Did similar protests happen in Detroit 50 years ago during the auto boom? Did unskilled rubes that do nothing all day put up banners saying "Auto boys not welcome"?

This is absurd. Take control of your own damn life. Educate yourself and learn relevant skills. The resources are out there and more accessible than ever. Spend a few good hours in your public library every day for a year and walk out of there a changed person with valuable skills to offer.

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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Post by zem »

huu wrote: post #13

Has this actually happened? I can't find any other news source confirming this. Edit: Yeah, this actually did happen. Picture of the broken window: https://twitter.com/craigsfrost/status/414121201754468352/ph...

http://blogs.kqed.org/newsfix/2013/12/20/eviction-protesters...

Re: Google Bus blocked, window smashed in West Oakland

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Post by sp332 »

huu wrote: post #13

Has this actually happened? I can't find any other news source confirming this. Edit: Yeah, this actually did happen. Picture of the broken window: https://twitter.com/craigsfrost/status/414121201754468352/ph...

Since the last incident included a guy impersonating a Google employee, I'd imagine most news outlets are going to vet this story a little harder before covering it.
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