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Re: New Mac Pro Available for Online Orders

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I wish this would be half the price tag... I'd buy it right away. Quoting from the page: "What's in the box - Mac Pro, Power Cord, Keyboard and Mouse sold separately". Funny that one of the three items really doesn't belong on that list.

No oxford comma: 'keyboard and mouse' are one entry in the list.

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Re: New Mac Pro Available for Online Orders

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You ever tried to edit 4K video? Real time editing is very important to post-production studios and when you are adding effects, rendering etc in a time sensitive environment - and you are a Final Cut person - then this is a great tool. This is not for your average dev or photo person, this is legitimately a 'Pro' machine aimed at very small a subset of Apple customers who actually mean quite a bit to the company. It…

But then, wouldn't you want a beefier machine? 64Gb of RAM seems a bit on the low side for such tasks. I would also think having multiple disks would be a pretty important feature (so you can stripe them for speed...) A single SSD? Really?

For video editing, proc and gpu are actually the important parts once you hit a certain point with ram and disk. Think about it, 4K videos in raw form are about 15gb per minute so you need a threshold of swapping and loading with ram and disk that allows you to move data in and out fast enough so the editing can be done in ram but you experience no lag as the user.

With disk in PCIe and a good controller you are getting around 1gb per second disk action so you have more than enough headroom.

Re: New Mac Pro Available for Online Orders

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Video editors, recording engineers, anyone who needs a super powerful desktop that runs os x and has a big budget for such things. I am baffled as to why apple went with such bespoke / underpowered hardware. It would have been relatively simple to update the internals of the existing mac pros and add thunderbolt 2 support.

Yup, and they could have pushed out a Mac Pro update much faster if they stuck with the old tower design.

And nobody (outside of the real market for Mac Pros) would have cared. Being audacious with their design gets attention from mere mortals which helps their brand image overall.

Re: New Mac Pro Available for Online Orders

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If you're doing 4K check out Dell, they actually have a monitor for it.

I actually dont, but I leased office space in a post-prod studio for a long time and am still friends with the owner. There is a demand for raw horsepower on a level many people dont understand.

I do understand :-)

My preferred architecture for serious users at the moment is to have the horsepower in a datacentre, monster boxes with 96 cores and 2T RAM, connected to SAN via Infiniband/Fibre Channel, and on the user's desktop, a thin client, connected to it via gigE. Schlepping the data back from the DC to the office, crunching it on a normal desktop box and sending it back again is a wild goose chase.

Re: New Mac Pro Available for Online Orders

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This is more Intel not Apple. http://ark.intel.com/products/75283/ Retail price for that CPU is 2.7k... you are paying maybe a $500 markup?

Closer to $1000, but that's not surprising really. I believe the "3.5GHz 6-core with 12MB of L3 cache" chip is this one http://ark.intel.com/products/75780 which has an RRP of $583. The difference in retail prices for those two chips is $2031 (2614-583) but you're paying Apple $3000 for that upgrade.

That seems reasonable.

Order a Dell and upgrade the ram. I bet you pay > 33% markup.

Or go order a car and get the premium Boise sound system. I bet you also pay > 33% markup

Re: New Mac Pro Available for Online Orders

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If you're prepared/have $13k to spend on a Mac Pro, what's $69?

This reminds me of: If you are paying 20k for a car whats 500 extra for the CD-changer? What about the heated rear view mirrors? These things add up. Just saying be careful with that thinking in general. :)

Agreed, except these are even smaller. Well.. maybe not on a $3500 computer - a keyboard/mouse extra is 3% of the sales price. but... When you configure it to be $6k, or $10k... dinging someone for an extra $100 just feels cheap/stingy.

Re: New Mac Pro Available for Online Orders

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If you're doing 4K check out Dell, they actually have a monitor for it.

I actually dont, but I leased office space in a post-prod studio for a long time and am still friends with the owner. There is a demand for raw horsepower on a level many people dont understand.

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Re: New Mac Pro Available for Online Orders

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If you're prepared/have $13k to spend on a Mac Pro, what's $69?

This reminds me of: If you are paying 20k for a car whats 500 extra for the CD-changer? What about the heated rear view mirrors? These things add up. Just saying be careful with that thinking in general. :)

Welcome to the Porsche configurator :)

Re: New Mac Pro Available for Online Orders

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Dunno why, but I've always felt Apple (and others too) seem to chintz out on the 'upsell' portion. I just configured a new Mac Pro for $13k, and I still need to tack on another $69 for a trackpad. WTH? Couldn't they say - "hey, you're buying a machine for over $5k - would you like a complimentary mouse or trackpad with this?" EDIT: yes, I do know why. It feels stingy. That's why.

Personally, I would be annoyed. I know that TANSTAAFL, and so I'm ultimately paying for that trackpad, which I don't want.

Re: New Mac Pro Available for Online Orders

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Dunno why, but I've always felt Apple (and others too) seem to chintz out on the 'upsell' portion. I just configured a new Mac Pro for $13k, and I still need to tack on another $69 for a trackpad. WTH? Couldn't they say - "hey, you're buying a machine for over $5k - would you like a complimentary mouse or trackpad with this?" EDIT: yes, I do know why. It feels stingy. That's why.

13k? Was that top of the line, or is there room for more? Also, yeah, I really don't see why Apple can't throw in a keyboard and mouse for free if you were to want one.

It was a mac pro will all the trimmings (well... except for the keyboard and mouse!). Oh, and 4k monitor for $3500, so...the computer itself was around $9500. And they want to ding me for $49 for a keyboard. Make it optional and free if the configuration build is > $5k ???
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