Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're prepared/have $13k to spend on a Mac Pro, what's $69?
An improved feeling towards the company for giving you a freebie.
Exactly, and I should have stated that more explicitly.
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#32I wish this would be half the price tag... I'd buy it right away. Quoting from the page: "What's in the box - Mac Pro, Power Cord, Keyboard and Mouse sold separately". Funny that one of the three items really doesn't belong on that list.
No oxford comma: 'keyboard and mouse' are one entry in the list.
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#33I don't get it. Who is the market for these, and why?
Video editors, recording engineers, anyone who needs a super powerful desktop that runs os x and has a big budget for such things. I am baffled as to why apple went with such bespoke / underpowered hardware. It would have been relatively simple to update the internals of the existing mac pros and add thunderbolt 2 support.
The budget isn't even that insane. I'm actually in the market for a new machine in the month or two. By the time I spec a 27" iMac up to where I'd want to be (Fusion Drive, i7 processor, graphics upgrade) it's close to 3 grand anyway, so making the jump to the base Mac Pro and just using my existing monitor isn't an insane jump.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
You ever tried to edit 4K video? Real time editing is very important to post-production studios and when you are adding effects, rendering etc in a time sensitive environment - and you are a Final Cut person - then this is a great tool. This is not for your average dev or photo person, this is legitimately a 'Pro' machine aimed at very small a subset of Apple customers who actually mean quite a bit to the company. It…
A Surface tablet with integrated GPU manipulating raw 6K video from a RED Dragon in real-time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A7Y5KCI1wc
I like my Surface but what they are showing and doing in that video is not truly editing. Showing raw or changing colors is not exactly the bar you need to get over.
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#35Add $3000 for the 12 core. Really? Edit: actually , all together it still comes to what was projected. I just didn't expect so much of it to be in the CPU.
This is more Intel not Apple. http://ark.intel.com/products/75283/ Retail price for that CPU is 2.7k... you are paying maybe a $500 markup?
Closer to $1000, but that's not surprising really.
I believe the "3.5GHz 6-core with 12MB of L3 cache" chip is this one http://ark.intel.com/products/75780 which has an RRP of $583.
The difference in retail prices for those two chips is $2031 (2614-583) but you're paying Apple $3000 for that upgrade.
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#36I don't get it. Who is the market for these, and why?
You ever tried to edit 4K video? Real time editing is very important to post-production studios and when you are adding effects, rendering etc in a time sensitive environment - and you are a Final Cut person - then this is a great tool. This is not for your average dev or photo person, this is legitimately a 'Pro' machine aimed at very small a subset of Apple customers who actually mean quite a bit to the company. It…
But then, wouldn't you want a beefier machine? 64Gb of RAM seems a bit on the low side for such tasks.
I would also think having multiple disks would be a pretty important feature (so you can stripe them for speed...) A single SSD? Really?
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#37I wish this would be half the price tag... I'd buy it right away. Quoting from the page: "What's in the box - Mac Pro, Power Cord, Keyboard and Mouse sold separately". Funny that one of the three items really doesn't belong on that list.
Re: pricing, these are expensive but the specs are pretty aggressive:
CPU - $300 RAM - $200 SSD - $200 GPUs - No exact model match, but the D300 seems to be a version of the FirePro W7000 with half the memory and half the memory bus width; those are $700 each on NewEgg.
Motherboard is obviously custom, but one supporting Xeons and ECC memory can easily run $300-500.
My guess is that it'd cost you well over $2,000 to build this yourself even before you get to the size, form factor, Thunderbolt, etc.
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#38Add $3000 for the 12 core. Really? Edit: actually , all together it still comes to what was projected. I just didn't expect so much of it to be in the CPU.
That chip retails for $2,795, so not really that out there.
Apple doesn't pay retail. Also, that $3,000 is above the cost of the base CPU.
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#39I don't get it. Who is the market for these, and why?
Film editors will gobble these up.
Not really. You can do 4k in real time on relatively inexpensive machines already and it's better to invest price difference into storage. I did just that last year while I was waiting for new Mac Pros. AVID and Premiere work great on Windows as well. It would be great if Adobe supported Linux, but oh well.
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#40Dunno why, but I've always felt Apple (and others too) seem to chintz out on the 'upsell' portion. I just configured a new Mac Pro for $13k, and I still need to tack on another $69 for a trackpad. WTH? Couldn't they say - "hey, you're buying a machine for over $5k - would you like a complimentary mouse or trackpad with this?" EDIT: yes, I do know why. It feels stingy. That's why.
If you're prepared/have $13k to spend on a Mac Pro, what's $69?
This reminds me of: If you are paying 20k for a car whats 500 extra for the CD-changer? What about the heated rear view mirrors? These things add up. Just saying be careful with that thinking in general. :)