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Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

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Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

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Post by dwaltrip »

mgrunin wrote: post #483
tdfx wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having money is not a license to act like an entitled, materialistic douchebag. I don't know the guy, but between this post and his instagram, that's the impression I've got of him. Hopefully some outside perspective will be useful to him.

I don't quite understand were I led anyone here to believe that I am an "entitled, materialistic douchebag". I had an issue on hand with a company, I felt I was being ignored. I was informed that the company is active on this website. I took the initiative to bring my problem to the public. Regarding my instagram, isn't such a social networking website in existence just to fool around with? Practically all my followe…

A social networking site is what you make of it. But if you have public material that is easily searchable, people are likely to judge the content they see. Not that this is relevant to the OP, but since you asked:

I think most people would agree that your instagram page has some extremely materialistic pictures. You tagged the rolex pic with the line "#money #suits #rolex #rkoi" (rkoi = rich kids of instagram).. I would look into making those pics private, because to many people outside your friend group, they come off as super douchey.

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

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Post by d23 »

mgrunin wrote: post #483
tdfx wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having money is not a license to act like an entitled, materialistic douchebag. I don't know the guy, but between this post and his instagram, that's the impression I've got of him. Hopefully some outside perspective will be useful to him.

I don't quite understand were I led anyone here to believe that I am an "entitled, materialistic douchebag". I had an issue on hand with a company, I felt I was being ignored. I was informed that the company is active on this website. I took the initiative to bring my problem to the public. Regarding my instagram, isn't such a social networking website in existence just to fool around with? Practically all my followe…

Just wanted to say that it's unfortunate how people are treating you over all of this. You should feel proud of what you've earned. I think everyone's got their pitchforks out because they think you're creating sockpuppets to fuck with CoinBase. Obviously if that's the case, you are a douchebag, but otherwise, your instagram looks fine for someone in their early 20s.

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

#493

Post by jnbiche »

PeterisP wrote: post #478
jnbiche wrote: post #173

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No, wrong. The reason people have to put up with Coinbase's shenanigans^, is because of the super intense regulations in this sector. Those of us who would take customer money more seriously (and who would have refused additional customers much earlier) also take legal liabilities more seriously, particularly the legal liabilities of running an unlicensed money transmission business. If these regulations weren't so o…

Lowering standards and allowing a larger number of competitors could bring in a better alternative to Coinbase, thus benefitting users and allowing them to get better service. However, it would also bring in a bunch of far worse companies, including purposely illegal ones. I'm fairly sure that the average 'quality' would go down even more. There could be a benefit to the more careful users, but consumers in general w…

There already are a bunch of far worse companies, including illegal ones. You see, the illegal ones operate anonymously and completely disregard the laws.

The only ones the laws are keeping out are honest businesses who do pay attention to the laws, and who would provide strong competition to Coinbase.

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

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Post by gaadd33 »

sequoia wrote: post #454
gaadd33 wrote: post #432

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Why can't you file a small claims lawsuit? It should cost you about $50 and a few hours of your time.

"a few hours" lol. Also, where? Summon whom to court? If I were coinbase I'd simply ignore such a suit.

If its not enough money to spend a few hours on, then I'm not sure its enough money to complain about either.

Where? Wherever you are, assuming in the US? I'm sure they could motion for dismissal under their TOS but at that point they will have probably taken note and fixed your issue.

Summon whom? You file suit against the corporate entity, this is how most lawsuits against corporations work. They get a notice and its up to them to either show up or not.

So if they ignore it and you get a default judgement, you can then use the judgement to collect from their bank since I doubt they are structured to hide money across international lines. Or you can just sell the judgement to a collections agency and let them deal with collecting it. Either way, if they ignore it you will likely get your money back. (Again this all assumes both you and Coinbase are in the US, if either of those isn't true then its possible for them to ignore it and have no issues)

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

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Post by rfnslyr »

mgrunin wrote: post #483
tdfx wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having money is not a license to act like an entitled, materialistic douchebag. I don't know the guy, but between this post and his instagram, that's the impression I've got of him. Hopefully some outside perspective will be useful to him.

I don't quite understand were I led anyone here to believe that I am an "entitled, materialistic douchebag". I had an issue on hand with a company, I felt I was being ignored. I was informed that the company is active on this website. I took the initiative to bring my problem to the public. Regarding my instagram, isn't such a social networking website in existence just to fool around with? Practically all my followe…

People judge what they see, and those been had cases videos haha.

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

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Post by hbags »

jonpaul wrote: post #442
hbags wrote: post #311

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And laws against theft don't prevent all theft so theft should be legal. I will never, in my life, understand why so many Libertarians take the argument that if some criminal might engage in a crime, then everyone should be allowed to do that same thing. It's the stupidest argument possible, yet you all parrot it unquestioningly. It blows my mind.

Wow. I encourage you to study logical fallacies. In particular: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman I never held the position that you stated.

Wow. I encourage you to study written English communication.

Your writing clearly implied that regulation is useless because sometimes criminals evade regulation. If you were capable of understanding how communication works, you'd admit this.

Further, I encourage you to learn how not to be a jerk. because you are one, and it undermines any value that you might have, by ensuring that no sane person (who disagrees with you on you on any point) will ever want to have a discussion with you. That said, I can see where an ignorant jerk like yourself might consider it a feature that only people who agree with you completely are capable of having a conversation with you.

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

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Post by Torquing »

mgrunin wrote: post #483
tdfx wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having money is not a license to act like an entitled, materialistic douchebag. I don't know the guy, but between this post and his instagram, that's the impression I've got of him. Hopefully some outside perspective will be useful to him.

I don't quite understand were I led anyone here to believe that I am an "entitled, materialistic douchebag". I had an issue on hand with a company, I felt I was being ignored. I was informed that the company is active on this website. I took the initiative to bring my problem to the public. Regarding my instagram, isn't such a social networking website in existence just to fool around with? Practically all my followe…

Confidence is often mistaken for arrogance. Success+youth compounds the likelihood.

Props to you for attempting to address many of the detractors, but doing so will take time from your more productive pursuits.

There is some good advice below on lowering your profile a bit until your skin thickens and your manner of expression becomes a bit less brash.

You have good reason to be proud of your success in a legal area that inspires your passion. Keep it up.

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

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Post by alttab »

midas007 wrote: post #482
alttab wrote: post #309

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Giving coins for USD is their primary use case. Monitoring transactions should be the only control they have in place if they must cut corners. As a coinbase customer and someone who manages a team and large complex distributed systems, this is an oversight I would not expect from an industry leader and makes me nervous to continue doing transactions with coinbase. How can we be made comfortable that this won't happe…

Coinbase is ultimately a double-ended marketplace. But to add more complexity to the fire, one's own systems count as yet another source of truth. So what the sellers say, what buyers say and what we say have to reconciled. It's these reconciliation processes that are the hard part... I've had to deal with micropayment reconciliation for a minor handset mfgr (multiple currencies, payment processors, timezones, produc…

A customer of bitcoin shouldnt have to care if the service you provide is hard. In fact, thats why they come to you in the first place.

Complaining about the complexities does not instill faith that you have a solid grasp on your product. Tell me you dont work at coinbase, please.

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

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Post by jonpaul »

hbags wrote: post #496
jonpaul wrote: post #442

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. I encourage you to study logical fallacies. In particular: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman I never held the position that you stated.

Wow. I encourage you to study written English communication. Your writing clearly implied that regulation is useless because sometimes criminals evade regulation. If you were capable of understanding how communication works, you'd admit this. Further, I encourage you to learn how not to be a jerk. because you are one, and it undermines any value that you might have, by ensuring that no sane person (who disagrees with…

I'm sorry. Please accept my apology as that wasn't my intent. As a student of both writing and communication, I subscribe to the belief of that a person should write not to be understood, but to not be misunderstood. Clearly I've failed at that.

My point was that I don't think that regulation is the answer. I honed in on the idea that regulation has failed in the past (I have more research to do here) and thus, maybe alternatives should be considered. I wasn't trying to imply that because laws don't prevent criminals, that we should not have laws. Obviously, that's ludicrous. It's ludicrous because regulation != laws, or the principle of having laws. I think we can safely say that regulation may be an implementation of a law, or a specific law. Much like pizza is food, but not all food is pizza. Follow me so far? So, philosophically, if we have a bad set of laws, I wasn't suggesting that we throw out all laws, I was suggesting that we look for alternatives to the bad set of laws. To bring it home a bit more to other areas in modern society, it'd be like if I said that I think the war on drugs is failure, "tell me how the war on drugs has helped stopped drug abusers and criminals" and then you were to respond with your same response of "And laws against theft don't prevent all theft so theft should be legal." when that clearly wasn't my position.

Does this clear up my position a bit? Anyways, sorry I came off as a jerk.

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