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Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

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Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

#211

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Lemme get this straight, Brian: Rather than refunding the dollar value ($35,104.11) of the original, clearly botched transaction, you ended up giving him the 40 BTC at their current trading value (about $560), that is, for net a loss of $35,104 - $22,400 = $12,704? And you think $50 plus a thank-you note(!) is enough to make him whole on this loss?

Don't be ridiculous. Sure, the order was delayed, but there is no reason why they should have refunded the entire order. Kudos to Brian and team for getting on top of this and solving the problem quickly. They executed the order as originally promised, admitted their mistake, and gave him a credit for the inconvenience. I've executed many transactions with Coinbase and although one of my transactions was delayed brie…

Do you work for coinbase? You seem to be defending them pretty hard.

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

#212
The guy who bought these coins is a douche. The fact is bitcoins are highly unstable and he bought them when the price was high(for this week). It is doubtful he would have had the sense to sell them before todays drop. If he really believes that bitcoins are a good investment, which I do, then he should have faith that they will rise in value over time(months, years). It's speculators like this that buy in when the price is high then immediately complain about the volatility that give bitcoins a bad name.

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

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This is the same situation as Facebook's IPO with NASDAQ. Orders were placed $40, then cancelled, then filled at $40 six hours after the market closed (at which point Facebook was already trading below its IPO price). Unless you are a massive financial institution with some serious clout/legal department, I recommend you cut your losses and move on. Your time is much more valuable spent doing something else rather th…

Not sure if this is sarcasm, but $35,000+ is a HUGE sum of money for even the decamillionaires I know.

$35,000 is a huge sum of money. I'm suggesting he sell the 40 or so bitcoin he purchased immediately at market price (~$550), cut his loses and move on. By doing so he would limit the damage and would only lose ~$12,700. Bitcoin will continue to fall and he will continue to lose money.

He won't get his money back from CoinBase and he is losing money every second he holds his bitcoin.

Losing money sucks. It happens to everyone who invests, gambles or takes a risk. Take your medicine, learn for your mistakes and be better tomorrow.

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

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No, it's nothing like shipping a book 2 days late. The OP has actual, recognizable economic losses as a result of Coinbase's delay. The transfer of money via ACH is a separate transaction from the Bitcoin acquisition. After the admitted delay following the Bitcoin acquisition transaction, Coinbase should have either reaffirmed that the OP wanted to purchase the coins at the original price, canceled the transaction, o…

OP has no economic loss as a result of Coinbase's delay. OP has a loss as a result of Bitcoin price changes independent of this error.

Which could have been mitigated -had Coinbase fulfilled their delivery, as negotiated-. Ergo, material losses.

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

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post #151

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because of your delay, he lost $13226.98 at current market rate: http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/177828-where-my-bitc... I hardly think $50 is going to make him feel happy.

And because of their delays, many others have made money on the transaction. They pay out at the market price of when the order was placed. The OP thought it was worth it then, and bought them then.

At any time between then and now, the OP could have realized his mistake and sold the bitcoins for a lesser loss had they been in possession of the bitcoins.

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

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Brian from Coinbase here. Sorry for the delay on that - definitely not the customer experience we are striving for. We should have things squared away for you by end of day. Edit: your bitcoin credit has now been processed. It looks like as we were performing server upgrades last week a handful of jobs didn't run as normal. We should have certainly caught it and responded sooner so that was our fault. My deepest apol…

Yikes! Please tell me you consulted with a lawyer before posting this publicly? Even if you gave the OP the BTC at current rates SEC/Courts can make a case against this sequence of events.

It does not even have to be reported.

I have nothing against you or Coinbase and I do sincerely hope I am wrong. This can have dire consequences on your current and future business(es).

It would have been best to refund the withdrawal in its entirety or just credited it, to be used for a future transaction as that would have saved you guys from a world of pain.

For any other service I would have given you Kudos for acting, albeit slowly, and applauded honesty(though not so much due to blaming it on the servers, which in a financial context is unacceptable).

But for a business that a court can deem/classify as a financial institution (regardless if you consider yourself one), this could be considered as a admittance of wrong doing.

edit: grammar

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

#217
post #185

Brian from Coinbase here. Sorry for the delay on that - definitely not the customer experience we are striving for. We should have things squared away for you by end of day. Edit: your bitcoin credit has now been processed. It looks like as we were performing server upgrades last week a handful of jobs didn't run as normal. We should have certainly caught it and responded sooner so that was our fault. My deepest apol…

Forget the difference in the exchange rates. Are you saying you have no system in place to monitor if transactions execute successfully ? I'm not trying to be hyperbolic but that's really shocking for a company that is trying to play a role as a financial institution.

>that's really shocking for a company that is trying to play a role as a financial institution.

That is probably the scariest part about the current Bitcoin community. Many of the big names are simply "playing a role". We have no idea of their technical expertise, the viability of their software, their USD/Bitcoin reserves, how they plan to address disputes like this, or even whether they are skimming of the top.

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

#218
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Not sure if this is sarcasm, but $35,000+ is a HUGE sum of money for even the decamillionaires I know.

Not really, I can easily come up with 35k at the drop of a hat...

Wanna buy some bitcoin? ;-)

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

#219
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> Now the real dilemma for me here is the fact that while CoinBase.com has locked in a price for me, because they have failed to deliver I cannot sell my coins at any rate. Bitcoins could drop down to $200, and only then might they deliver the coins. It's scary that they can literally guarantee constant wins for themselves by choosing how long to delay the delivery of Bitcoins to customers.

I don't think they're maliciously delaying the delivery of bitcoins. I just think they need to hire more customer support reps to deal with problems like these in a timely manner when they arise.

It's highly suspicious that Coinbase has the capacity to selectively delay or cancel transactions when the prices rise, but no ability to do so when prices drop. If their system isn't capable of that, it's definitely a deliberate design choice since the necessary code is essentially identical.

Re: Sent $35,104.11 USD to CoinBase. Never received Bitcoins

#220
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Did you credit his account using the rate of the day he purchased his coins in? If not that's unnacceptable. Why would anyone use your sevice? Why does it take a public shaming for you to do your job?

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You seem quite the apologist:

"To not expect some errors from a startup with an emerging technology is just silly. Users should expect some errors, and expect fixes to those errors by Coinbase as properly happened in this case."

Huh?

A startup dealing in financial instruments doesn't just get to say "Startup!" "1.0!" "Beta!" or "MVP!" and wash its hands of responsibility.

If I do $10,000 worth of damage to your car due to my (in-)action, and throw $50 at you "by way of apologizing", your losses are somehow mitigated?

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