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Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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Re: Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guessing (possibly incorrectly), one reason they might not want to promise upgrades is in case the hardware simply can't handle it.

Probably true, but they're still shooting themselves in the foot. Apple is still supporting a device from 2010 with software updates.

Have you used an apple phone from 2010? Yes, they provide updates, but the updates make the phone incredibly slow and almost unusable. I'm not implying that apple intentionally does planned obsolescence updates, but that is what happens when you run new software on old hardware.

Re: Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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I've got good recommendations on Lenovo A820 ( http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_a820-5462.php ) which has about the same price but a little lower. What would you buy? A Moto G or a Lenovo A820?

It looks like Moto G has slightly better screen, newer OS, and better integration with Google services, while A820 has micro sd slot and better camera. If none of that is critical for you - I would say get a feel for both of them and go with one you like better. There is nothing fundamentally better about specs on either phone.

Keep in mind the A820 has an MTK SoC which could affect the timely adoption of later firmware vs the Moto G's Qualcomm Snapdragon 400, which is well supported by many ROM authors.

Re: Google’s $179 Moto G puts every single cheap Android phone to shame

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I can't wait for a Verizon version (apparently 1Q 2014) to pare up with PagePlus, so I can dump my VZ contract and only pay half of what I do now.

I bought 3 moto g's and on the day they arrived switched the entire family to tmobile. I had enough of Verizon and now my bill is $100 a month. Can't beat that.

I'd like to do that. Which plan?

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>It's tempting to think of the Moto G as some kind of "Nexus Jr.," a cheaper way to buy into the clean UI and quick software updates that Google's reference phones have always received. However, Google is making no promises about versions of Android beyond version 4.4, and speculating about whether Android 4.5 or 5.0 or whatever will roll out to the Moto phones as quickly as KitKat is a pointless exercise. Again shoo…

Guessing (possibly incorrectly), one reason they might not want to promise upgrades is in case the hardware simply can't handle it.

The hardware could be completely capable of handling it but the software isn't. A lot of times when you buy an ARM SoC it comes with a supported kernel from the manufacturer and some documentation(but sometimes for various reasons a lot is missing). To ensure that you can always port the newest version of Android to a phone you need to ensure you can port the newest kernel. Limiting yourself only to well supported mainlined chips or to chips that you have all the documentation you need to maintain your own branch greatly limits your options and can run up costs a ton.

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This is getting really interesting. Between this, the Nexus 5 and the various Lumia's a $649 iPhone is starting to look very, very expensive. Smartphones at the moment seem to have got 'good enough'.

Apple used to cover all bases. There was iPod Shuffle, iPod Nano, all the way up to the biggest iPod. So in the early 2000s, people at every level of the MP3 player market could be part of Apple's universe (which led to more PC sales and further MP3 sales and upgrading). They've still not done this with phones, so they've left a giant hole for Android to fill, which in turn makes the platform more attractive to devel…

the problem here, is that they make SO MUCH MONEY that offering a (truely) low end model, or making any drastic changes is a great risk to their bottom line
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