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Real Men Go to Sleep

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Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by eludwig »

StandardFuture wrote: post #21
tehwalrus wrote: post #18

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from the article: > An abundance of scientific findings, many from research sponsored by the military and NASA, has led many executives to abandon the quest to minimize sleep unreasonably. They aren't arguing entirely from anecdotes, they are using them to illustrate the point mostly. They are writing for a broad audience of non-scientists, which they've used as an excuse to exclude references from passages like the…

Ah, but we would need to know the parameters and conclusions of these studies to know if the author was utulizing the data and findings correctly or if he is using it in a biased manner. Assuming, he references the generality of the studies appropriately (abandon the quest to minimize sleep unreasonably). Then the discussion should cater towards the differences between unreasonable sleep deprivation expectations brou…

Or you could just keep it simple:

If you are hungry, eat. If you are tired, sleep.

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Post by fatihdonmez »

mfjordvald wrote: post #54

At our offices in China almost everyone naps during the lunch break. Lights gets turned off and fold out beds dominate the floor space. Took a bit to get used to when I first got here but it's actually quite nice to get a short nap in the middle of the day.

I was loving it when i was expat there. now sleepless lunch times in my country.

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Post by Gyy0 »

"Sleep is for sissies." also reflected in the Ben Franklin maxim "There will be plenty of time to sleep once you are dead."

A friend had a short stint working in Taiwan and he was surprised by the fact that almost everyone took a nap sometime during the day. Long term thinking that.

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Post by mathattack »

agilebyte wrote: post #28
mathattack wrote: post #26

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I agree. A weekend nap is a beautiful thing. Couldn't pull it off at work. Sometimes I cheat by having coffee just before. Then I wake up 20 mins later with the dual benefit of sleep plus caffeine kicking in.

This kind of a pillow wouldn't work? :) http://designyoutrust.com/productdesign/power-nap-office-pil...

It would be glorious, but probably borrowed away very quickly!

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Post by eru »

wil421 wrote: post #60
x0054 wrote: post #3

While studying for the bar, I used to take 2 hour 'naps' in the middle of the day. My schedule was 4 hours on, some food and nap, 4 hours on. Probably most productive 3 months of my life. I got to say, those siesta embracing countries might be on to something.

I usually feel groggy after naps and it would be hard for me to go back to studying or working.

Practice helps.

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Post by wcarss »

spuz wrote: post #39

It was my understanding that while Google has nap rooms in some offices, they are seldom used. The culture is geared around long hours and if you are seen to be napping that is seen as a potential sign of weakness. Of course I could be completely wrong (I'm just pulling this idea out of a vague memory of reading about it here on HN) so I hope a Google employee will correct me. However, it seems reasonable that a comp…

I got the feeling that it depended on your social status within the team. If you were seen to be a producer and got shit done, then sure whatever, take a nap -- just keep it up. And pretty much everyone I met was someone who got shit done, but a lot of people who get shit done won't let themselves take a nap at work. Even if it's good for them.

Some people still took naps, and I get the sense that the others felt napping would be a violation of a personal code, rather than something consciously felt as a cultural pressure.

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Post by drcube »

terabytest wrote: post #17
PhantomGremlin wrote: post #16

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Forget Adblock, just use NoScript. The article was perfectly viewable for me. Not trying to start a holy war, NoScript isn't a universal cure. There is plenty of content linked to from HN that requires JS. (However, I don't bother reading most of it!)

I think the consequences of using NoScript outweigh the benefits. I don't think I could stand 40% of the sites I use being unusable due to lack of JavaScript, that's not how it's meant to be.

If the site doesn't work, you can enable scripts one by one until it does. Usually you just have to allow scripts from the domain you're visiting, and you can prevent most abuses that use third party scripts that way.

Occasionally you'll run across a site that has scripts from 30-odd domains, and after enabling a few, it still doesn't work. Those sites aren't worth visiting.

But NoScript gives you the degree of control you want. It's possible to enable all scripts by default, disabling them only when you feel there is a problem. Or you can use it for information purposes only, so you know what third party domains have scripts running on that page.

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Post by ganeumann »

freehunter wrote: post #47
pc86 wrote: post #44

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Seriously. If you're so [self-]important that you can't be bothered to close a modal window, you clearly don't have time to be reading articles from HN.

I wouldn't refuse to read an article because of something like that (unless it made it overly difficult to read the article), but I think bad design habits do need to be called out. They seem to be becoming more popular on sites that really should know better. If your design choices make the article uncomfortable or annoying to read, it detracts from the content.

You're not the target audience (if you're the average HN reader, that is, don't actually know you personally.)

HBR gets a high price for its ads because its audience is older businesspeople (decision makers on high-priced services and products) who consider its content high-worth and authoritative (this attitude rubs off on the ads around the content.) Having a gating ad that scares away people who don't value the content enough to close it probably increases the price per ad more than enough to make up for the slightly decreased viewership of the ad.

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Post by mgr86 »

louthy wrote: post #12
x0054 wrote: post #3

While studying for the bar, I used to take 2 hour 'naps' in the middle of the day. My schedule was 4 hours on, some food and nap, 4 hours on. Probably most productive 3 months of my life. I got to say, those siesta embracing countries might be on to something.

It's thought to be a more natural sleep pattern, and us westerners have beaten it out of ourselves: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16964783 "His book At Day's Close: Night in Times Past, published four years later, unearths more than 500 references to a segmented sleeping pattern - in diaries, court records, medical books and literature, from Homer's Odyssey to an anthropological account of modern tribes in Niger…

I was not aware of this book. Sounds fascinating. One of my favorite articles I've ever read was in an anthropological course that detailed some of these same findings cross culturally.

The title of the article is "Slumbers Unexplored Landscape" I'd link to it but what I've found is I believe behind a paywall. I'm employed at a university so sometimes I don't notice paywalls.

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