Real Men Go to Sleep • Hacker News Board

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by GFischer » Thu, Dec 05, 2013, 1:05 PM UTC

erre wrote: post #40

spuz wrote: post #39

It was my understanding that while Google has nap rooms in some offices, they are seldom used. The culture is geared around long hours and if you are seen to be napping that is seen as a potential sign of weakness. Of course I could be completely wrong (I'm just pulling this idea out of a vague memory of reading about it here on HN) so I hope a Google employee will correct me. However, it seems reasonable that a comp…

I'm not a Google employee, but I once visited their Zürich office and was shown the nap room. Not only was it really cool, but there were several people using it (just after lunch).

That would be a great perk :) . I'd definitely be more productive and be able to work longer hours if I was able to take a nap (not that I want to work longer hours :) ).

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by abrichr » Thu, Dec 05, 2013, 1:06 PM UTC

erre wrote: post #40

spuz wrote: post #39

It was my understanding that while Google has nap rooms in some offices, they are seldom used. The culture is geared around long hours and if you are seen to be napping that is seen as a potential sign of weakness. Of course I could be completely wrong (I'm just pulling this idea out of a vague memory of reading about it here on HN) so I hope a Google employee will correct me. However, it seems reasonable that a comp…

I'm not a Google employee, but I once visited their Zürich office and was shown the nap room. Not only was it really cool, but there were several people using it (just after lunch).

There's definitely a significant difference in attitudes towards sleep and work between Europe and the US. Perhaps someone who has experience working in both can comment.

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by sp332 » Thu, Dec 05, 2013, 1:08 PM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #29

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I thought it was a play on the book Real Men Don't Eat Quiche which had a bunch of funny rules for "real men". The book wasn't supposed to be serious, and the formula is often used to poke fun at people who think that way.

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by pc86 » Thu, Dec 05, 2013, 1:13 PM UTC

dwaltrip wrote: post #34

androidb wrote: post #6

Closed the page before reading the article for the fact that they popped up a modal advertisement window with a black background - ironic is that Adblock removed the ad content so it was a white box on a black background.

I'm sick of seeing comments about how someone didn't even read the freakin' article because they didn't like "X" on the page.

Seriously. If you're so [self-]important that you can't be bothered to close a modal window, you clearly don't have time to be reading articles from HN.

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by erre » Thu, Dec 05, 2013, 1:29 PM UTC

abrichr wrote: post #42

erre wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a Google employee, but I once visited their Zürich office and was shown the nap room. Not only was it really cool, but there were several people using it (just after lunch).

There's definitely a significant difference in attitudes towards sleep and work between Europe and the US. Perhaps someone who has experience working in both can comment.

Ah, yes, good point. Also, FWIW, this was about 3 years ago.

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by coldpie » Thu, Dec 05, 2013, 1:31 PM UTC

terabytest wrote: post #17

PhantomGremlin wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forget Adblock, just use NoScript. The article was perfectly viewable for me. Not trying to start a holy war, NoScript isn't a universal cure. There is plenty of content linked to from HN that requires JS. (However, I don't bother reading most of it!)

I think the consequences of using NoScript outweigh the benefits. I don't think I could stand 40% of the sites I use being unusable due to lack of JavaScript, that's not how it's meant to be.

That's what the permanent whitelist function is for. Block the ad and social garbage, whitelist the tiny minority of useful JS.

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by freehunter » Thu, Dec 05, 2013, 1:35 PM UTC

pc86 wrote: post #44

dwaltrip wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sick of seeing comments about how someone didn't even read the freakin' article because they didn't like "X" on the page.

Seriously. If you're so [self-]important that you can't be bothered to close a modal window, you clearly don't have time to be reading articles from HN.

I wouldn't refuse to read an article because of something like that (unless it made it overly difficult to read the article), but I think bad design habits do need to be called out. They seem to be becoming more popular on sites that really should know better. If your design choices make the article uncomfortable or annoying to read, it detracts from the content.

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by Cthulhu_ » Thu, Dec 05, 2013, 1:43 PM UTC

dwaltrip wrote: post #34

androidb wrote: post #6

Closed the page before reading the article for the fact that they popped up a modal advertisement window with a black background - ironic is that Adblock removed the ad content so it was a white box on a black background.

I'm sick of seeing comments about how someone didn't even read the freakin' article because they didn't like "X" on the page.

And I'm sick of going back in time ten years when ads would pop up or under the page you were viewing. Then ad blockers were invented. Then popups were re-invented in the form of modal dialogs.

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by balakk » Thu, Dec 05, 2013, 1:47 PM UTC

terabytest wrote: post #17

PhantomGremlin wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forget Adblock, just use NoScript. The article was perfectly viewable for me. Not trying to start a holy war, NoScript isn't a universal cure. There is plenty of content linked to from HN that requires JS. (However, I don't bother reading most of it!)

I think the consequences of using NoScript outweigh the benefits. I don't think I could stand 40% of the sites I use being unusable due to lack of JavaScript, that's not how it's meant to be.

I used to think that, but NoScript is surprisingly usable. I switched to Firefox simply because of NoScript.

Re: Real Men Go to Sleep

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Post by zacinbusiness » Thu, Dec 05, 2013, 1:52 PM UTC

My schedule is really weird. Because I work in America for a company in Scandinavia there is a pretty wide time difference. When I first started they asked if I could be "at work" around 8 or 9 my time, which is very reasonable considering that is 2 or 3 their time. I often volunteer to wake up early when there's something important that's going to happen, and I often work late into the night if I'm trying to get something accomplished, but it's all of my own doing - they never ask me to, or tell me that I have to, and I've actually been politely asked to go to bed before.

On normal working days, though, I wake up naturally around 6, go through my normal routine, and am "at work" by 7-8 anyway. And then I work until around 1 or 2 at which point I take a nap for an hour or so, and then I get back to work until I've finished all my major tasks for that day which is typically 4 or 5. After that, I'm free to do whatever I want, and I try to get to bed by 11 so that I can be sure to wake up the next day fully rested (this is mostly out of respect for my employer rather than out of a sense of habit or of good health).