A mass protest is not a revolution.
Protests in Ukraine
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Re: Protests in Ukraine
#32We have these kind of riots in Hungary (pretty close to Ukraine) as well. They are not really revolutions, but they are a good indicator that the people are extremely fed up with current government policies, which may lead to a revolution. Exciting times to live in, hopefully the people will be able to get rid of the corrupt ruling class. EDIT: Just to give you bit of context on corruption... in the UK where I curren…
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Re: Protests in Ukraine
#33We have these kind of riots in Hungary (pretty close to Ukraine) as well. They are not really revolutions, but they are a good indicator that the people are extremely fed up with current government policies, which may lead to a revolution. Exciting times to live in, hopefully the people will be able to get rid of the corrupt ruling class. EDIT: Just to give you bit of context on corruption... in the UK where I curren…
>in the UK where I currently live, politicians are going into prisons for faking a couple of thousands of pounds as expense and profiting from that.
Thats more of a distraction than anything else. For the juicy stuff, look into the spending obligations on PFI contracts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_finance_initiative#Dev...
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AtE8tc3zkyCLdFVBNWF...
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/datablog/2010/nov/19/pfi...
The UK does its corruption over the table.
Re: Protests in Ukraine
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, 100% agreed, we had the same here in Brazil from June to November: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_protests_in_Brazil http://www.cbsnews.com/news/brazil-protests-expand-to-over-o...
People are waking up all over the world. I wish the best for your nation. Never give up.
Ask the Arabs how that "waking up" is going for them. Instability is never a good in itself, especially if you don't have a clear alternative to slide in place.
Young people have a hard time learning this lesson from history. They just like to see change, but often live to regret it.
Re: Protests in Ukraine
#35This is my rough understanding of what's going on: Ukraine wants to increase cooperation with Europe, and possibly join EU. This would undermine it's relationship with Russia. The previous Ukranian president, Viktor Yushchenko, usually sided with the West, and current president, Viktor Yanukovych, wants to preserve friendship with Russia. Russia obviously doesn't want to lose allies, so it threatened to stop trading,…
When you say "Ukraine wants to increase cooperation with Europe", who do you mean by "Ukraine"? The president? The people in the west (i.e. the ones protesting here)? The people in the east who only speak Russian?
Everybody does! Here on east of Ukraine everybody wants freedom of speech, goverment w/o corruption, 3g internet.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exciting times to live in, hopefully the people will be able to get rid of the corrupt ruling class. In democracies, the people typically do this by voting for someone else. Why isn't that an option in Hungary?
In eastern-european democracies ( like mine in Bulgaria ) your voting options are limited to parties that has stable corruption background, which pay media and poor citizen to vote for them. In this sense there is no way honest people to get involve in the government affairs, because they lack resources ( money, connections, etc. ) that are needed for wining ( even partly ) elections.
You can delete words up to "Your voting options..." and you will have described the political situation in the USA.
Re: Protests in Ukraine
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you say "Ukraine wants to increase cooperation with Europe", who do you mean by "Ukraine"? The president? The people in the west (i.e. the ones protesting here)? The people in the east who only speak Russian?
Everybody does! Here on east of Ukraine everybody wants freedom of speech, goverment w/o corruption, 3g internet.
You should also add that everybody wants to have well payed job. Question is "Which move would be better?". I think problem is that Ukrainians split in two roughly equal parts: pro-EU and pro-Russia (Yanukovych would not win recent election otherwise) and it's almost impossible to have consensus.
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#39Someone who speaks the language or is there could please give us some context?
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#40Someone who speaks the language or is there could please give us some context?
https://github.com/ministryofcrimeofukraine
That happend yesterday at 5a.m. police have bitten peacful protestors to clear main capital's square in order to set up christmas tree there. That lead to huge amount of people gather on streets of Kiev today. And small group of provoker tried to get into Presidet's Office as seen on different ustreams like this ones.