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The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Re: The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Post by staz »

agumonkey wrote: post #26
smcl wrote: post #3

Minor nitpick: I don't know how to say "Jolla". I mean I know that "Jolla" is pronounced "Hoya" in European Spanish ("Hosha" in Argentinian), but in most European languages it'd be "Yolla" with a soft "j" and the naive English pronunciation would be "Djolla". I don't know which was the intended one. Not that it really matters I suppose, but why go to all that trouble building an apparently lovely device and giving it…

Even the simplest names will be pronounced in various ways. I believe NIKE is said NAi-Kee in the U.S when French people say NAik.

Yes and if the French prononunced it like it's written it would sound like Neek, which is similar to the french word 'Nique' which is a slang for fucking

Re: The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Post by valvoja »

leoedin wrote: post #83
valvoja wrote: post #72

Meh. I'd wait for the first few objective reviews. I lost interest when they said things like "there is one hardware feature that is unique to Jolla: The Other Half [...] a concept of user-changeable smart back cover." Surely replaceable plastic covers have been around for decades and they are mostly associated with low-end feature phones... or really old Nokias.

So you lost interest... and stopped reading completely? Had you read any further you would have realised that the unique feature is that there's both a power connector and an I2C interface available to those back covers. It's a pretty brilliant concept - you could interface with the whole host of cool chips which use I2C, or even build yourself a little robot chassis.

Power connector like the wireless chargers by Nokia etc? Not sure what a I2C interface is...

My point is that I would prefer objective reviews, not glowing praise from fans etc. The key question for is not what tech did they pack in a small screen device, but does it actually feel better to use than the incumbents.

Re: The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Post by majgr »

ye wrote: post #52
marquis wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think long-term. What could you conceivably do on the desktop that you can't do on the browser? Media recording and management? HTML5 is well on the way and someone compiled a functional version of FFMpeg in Javascript just recently. Storage? Security? Dropbox and more of the kind. We already have document management. The only thing I can think of right now is a render farm but we'll do that in the cloud anyway (even…

> What could you conceivably do on the desktop that you can't do on the browser? Off the top of my head, 1) Anything low level hardware (reading data via USB, or pushing data into HDMI, for instance) 2) Interacting with ANY hardware that's not explicitly supported by Javascript. Try creating an HTML5/JS scanner app. 3) Writing super-fast CPU-specific code, think Assembly language. That's the reason there are no HTML5…

2) Scanner can act as a web server pushing its UI to the phone after Bluetooth handshake(I think this will be the future of Internet Of Things)

Re: The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Post by agumonkey »

staz wrote: post #91
agumonkey wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even the simplest names will be pronounced in various ways. I believe NIKE is said NAi-Kee in the U.S when French people say NAik.

Yes and if the French prononunced it like it's written it would sound like Neek, which is similar to the french word 'Nique' which is a slang for fucking

Even with an american-like pronounciation (Nai-k) it could be used as slang.

I wonder if the greek says Nee-Kei~, since Nike is a borrowing from greek mythology.

Re: The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Post by Kluny »

brunnsbe wrote: post #63

Here is a more honest article (in Finnish) from someone who have used the device for a day: http://mobiili.fi/2013/11/28/jolla-vuorokauden-kaytossa-tass... English translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=n&prev=... According to the article the biggest problem seems to be Internet-connectivity, the reception is sometimes bad and it has problems connecting to WLAN. The browser is also quite sl…

Jolla is hilariously translated to Dinghy throughout the article.

Re: The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Post by Kluny »

daliusd wrote: post #78
alextingle wrote: post #75

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Totally disagree with you on hardware: > Technically no vendor can offer something exceptionally different from hardware point of view. Just because vendors are falling over themselves to makes Iphone clones, doesn't mean there's no other way. Personally, the whole current smartphone scene leaves me cold, because no-one is making hardware for me. I want a small, robust phone I can put in my pocket and forget about. S…

Nokia 515 is waiting for you. Really. Check out it. Still there is nothing exceptional about this hardware IMHO.

Wow, that looks amazing. I find myself wishing there was a banana for scale, though. Is it as small as the old candybar phones?

Re: The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Post by contingencies »

Interesting timing: I received my first FirefoxOS device yesterday. It works. It cost $80.

Looking at this phone, which targets a far higher price point, I am forced to consider their differences: Contribute development effort towards getting the rest of the planet online and empowered? ... or help nords preserve their heritage of mobile device architecture?

Mozilla and Wikimedia are working hard to provide equal access to all under an open platform. Considering the growth trajectory for the developing world (widely recognized by macro-economists), we can each commercially justify time investment in the FirefoxOS platform. As the web's new primary class of access devices, mobile devices for the developing world are a big part of our shared future. Let's keep it open.

Re: The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Post by hajile »

anonymfus wrote: post #20
anonymfus wrote: post #15

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This is not requerment. First generation of WP7 phones had few curvy models, but square corners was a trend already. Flashy colours were popularised by Nokia, they had similar design before switching to Windows Phone, so HTC and Huawey just copied them for WP models. Samsung Ativ S is example of curvy black WP8 phone.

Returning to the topic, MeeGo based http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N9 had almost the same design as their first WP7 phone Lumia 800.

More like Elop came in, killed the entire MeeGo pipeline (except for the one phone they were contractually obligated to launch), and then used the MeeGo hardware to launch his WP7 stuff sooner.

Re: The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Post by byw »

veeti wrote: post #16

> At Seravo we hold the belief that in the long term, browser based HTML5 apps will be more important than native apps. What is the "long term"? Has somebody actually managed to build a native HTML5-based UI that isn't a laggy and clumsy piece of shit yet? For example, webOS looked great but even the simplest lists scrolled with less than 30 frames per second. The videos I've seen of FxOS don't show much promise eith…

Forecast.io runs pretty well on my iPhone 5. With the smooth animations I honestly can't tell it's HTML/JS.
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