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The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Re: The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Post by emilsedgh »

Aardwolf wrote: post #7

An observation I have been wondering: Whenever a Windows phone is presented, there are pictures of phones that have more square corners than other phones, and flashy colors like yellow and orange. It seems to be almost a requirement of a phone with the Windows software, to have colorful and squary hardware. Is that a coincidence, or a sort of design convention or requirement? EDIT: Oops, apparently it does not run Wi…

This is not a windows phone. It uses SailfishOS[0] which is basically a continuation of Maemo/Meego.

[0] https://sailfishos.org/

Re: The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Post by Geee »

manmal wrote: post #2

I can't believe that no pixels can be seen on a 4,5" screen with a resolution of 960x540. That would be a worse density than my > 3 year old HTC desire. A mistake in the article?

I think they wanted to go pretty low-end with their first device and also be forward thinking about it, because that resolution is half of 1080p.

Re: The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Post by iaskwhy »

smcl wrote: post #3

Minor nitpick: I don't know how to say "Jolla". I mean I know that "Jolla" is pronounced "Hoya" in European Spanish ("Hosha" in Argentinian), but in most European languages it'd be "Yolla" with a soft "j" and the naive English pronunciation would be "Djolla". I don't know which was the intended one. Not that it really matters I suppose, but why go to all that trouble building an apparently lovely device and giving it…

Not really related, more like a curiosity: "jola" is (give or take) the cheap Portuguese word for beer.

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Post by veeti »

manmal wrote: post #2

I can't believe that no pixels can be seen on a 4,5" screen with a resolution of 960x540. That would be a worse density than my > 3 year old HTC desire. A mistake in the article?

This entire piece sounds overly positive about the thing. We get it, it's a real Linux phone, but the hardware is lackluster for 2013. That shitty screen resolution sounds like the final nail in the coffin for me.

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Post by anonymfus »

Aardwolf wrote: post #7

An observation I have been wondering: Whenever a Windows phone is presented, there are pictures of phones that have more square corners than other phones, and flashy colors like yellow and orange. It seems to be almost a requirement of a phone with the Windows software, to have colorful and squary hardware. Is that a coincidence, or a sort of design convention or requirement? EDIT: Oops, apparently it does not run Wi…

This is not requerment. First generation of WP7 phones had few curvy models, but square corners was a trend already. Flashy colours were popularised by Nokia, they had similar design before switching to Windows Phone, so HTC and Huawey just copied them for WP models. Samsung Ativ S is example of curvy black WP8 phone.

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Post by veeti »

> At Seravo we hold the belief that in the long term, browser based HTML5 apps will be more important than native apps.

What is the "long term"? Has somebody actually managed to build a native HTML5-based UI that isn't a laggy and clumsy piece of shit yet? For example, webOS looked great but even the simplest lists scrolled with less than 30 frames per second. The videos I've seen of FxOS don't show much promise either (although those are running on really low-end hardware).

I'm really skeptical that trying to shoehorn something called "hypertext markup language" and a generic web rendering engine like WebKit into a UI toolkit is ever going to work smoothly. Even on my desktop computer complex sites can work slowly at times. But I'd love to be proven wrong.

Re: The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Post by 45g »

What puzzles me about Jolla and it's Sailfish OS is the constant emphasis on being "truly open" when in fact the sources of the OS are nowhere to be found. They point you to projects such as Mer and say Sailfish OS is based on it but by the same logic Apple is "truly open" because OS X is based on Darwin.

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Post by bergie »

veeti wrote: post #16

> At Seravo we hold the belief that in the long term, browser based HTML5 apps will be more important than native apps. What is the "long term"? Has somebody actually managed to build a native HTML5-based UI that isn't a laggy and clumsy piece of shit yet? For example, webOS looked great but even the simplest lists scrolled with less than 30 frames per second. The videos I've seen of FxOS don't show much promise eith…

Read this one: http://www.sencha.com/blog/the-making-of-fastbook-an-html5-l...

Re: The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Post by reubenmorais »

veeti wrote: post #16

> At Seravo we hold the belief that in the long term, browser based HTML5 apps will be more important than native apps. What is the "long term"? Has somebody actually managed to build a native HTML5-based UI that isn't a laggy and clumsy piece of shit yet? For example, webOS looked great but even the simplest lists scrolled with less than 30 frames per second. The videos I've seen of FxOS don't show much promise eith…

FxOS runs at 50+ FPS for pretty much all of the built-in UI, even on lower end phones like the Geeksphone Keon. Higher end phones are actually really fast, like the LG Fireweb (released in Brazil a couple weeks ago) and the GP Peak.

Re: The Jolla phone – first impressions

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Post by anonymfus »

anonymfus wrote: post #15
Aardwolf wrote: post #7

An observation I have been wondering: Whenever a Windows phone is presented, there are pictures of phones that have more square corners than other phones, and flashy colors like yellow and orange. It seems to be almost a requirement of a phone with the Windows software, to have colorful and squary hardware. Is that a coincidence, or a sort of design convention or requirement? EDIT: Oops, apparently it does not run Wi…

This is not requerment. First generation of WP7 phones had few curvy models, but square corners was a trend already. Flashy colours were popularised by Nokia, they had similar design before switching to Windows Phone, so HTC and Huawey just copied them for WP models. Samsung Ativ S is example of curvy black WP8 phone.

Returning to the topic, MeeGo based http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N9 had almost the same design as their first WP7 phone Lumia 800.
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