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One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

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No, it would be a hard-as-shit weapon to take away from them. In theory it sounds easy, but culture moves at a glacial pace.

Maybe in the US. I don't know, can't really see the slut-shaming working to this extent here in the UK, let alone other parts of Europe. Hell, Italy had an ex-pornstar as a member of parliament for some time IIRC.

How about slut rewarding; http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/15/elina-desaine-uks... ?

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

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This would be the same Europe where millions of people were murdered by their own governments within living memory, that had a functioning Fascist state (a real one) until 1975 and Communist slave states up until 1989, and that has has active "ethnic cleansing" going on right now ? That Europe? Just checking.

Exactly, this level of over propping up of Europe and anti-Americanism s ridiculous. I suppose Alan Turing would have thought of Europe as quite "sane" on sexuality as everyone seems to!

Nothing to do with anti Americanism. To 'us' (in the EU in this case) it just seems weird that when there is acted sex and fuck-and-such in a movie during daytime on normal (not pay tv) television, in the US this is considered porn, is beeped away or not aired in the first place. You don't call that prude; while no-one here would blink an eye, young or old, over there it needs to be censored? How is that anti-Americanism and how is it not weird?

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

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post #10

A somewhat related note is that America's culture of sex-negativity, shame and general hysteria around nudity is a required prerequisite for this type of bullying and abuse. Look at the following paragraph: > Jill became hysterical, repeating, "Oh, my God. No. Oh, my God. No." This is, obviously, the reaction of someone who fears repercussions from others. And this is for completely harmless acts (taking nude photos)…

I find it hard to even muster anger at Moore and his followers. Moore is likely a psychopath, his followers are psychopaths and/or 13-year-olds, and it's hard for me to see those organisms as anything but a devastating force of nature. They need to be stopped from hurting people, but my emotional response to them is much like my response to malaria or HIV. No, the people who make me angry are the ones like that princ…

Moore certainly seems in serious need of psychological help. But the victim-blaming reaction of the other protagonists (the principal, the local police department...) is just terrible. Clearly, Moore and his followers are not the only ones with a clear lack of empathy.

What I'm surprised about is that there did not seem to be any consequence to his lack of response to a DMCA takedown notice. Is this not enforceable short of a lawsuit?

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

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post #24

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Absolutely spot on. I have no sympathy for the villain, but this story sums up modern America: 1. A prudish culture in which women are fired for the slightest revealing photo. 2. A litigious culture in which courts and police are heavily relied on to solve disputes. 3. An infantilized youth remaining under the wings of their parents long after reaching adulthood. 4. A burgeoning labyrinth of overly-specific laws bein…

Eh this is anti-American jibber jabber. Where is this fantastic enlightened country of which you speak? So you mean to say in the UK, Norway, or whatever mythical country you are implying about, no women there would be upset to have people surreptitiously posting nude pictures of them? I call shenanigans on this and all the other nonsense anti-American rants.

You should really get out more. And I mean out of America.

Nobody likes private pictures of them posted without their consent, but in countries were topless sunbathing is the norm and nudity is a non-issue, women would be upset as in being pissed off, not as in "oh my god, my life is ruined".

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

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Wikipedia says one of the victims stabbed him, but there are no citations.

Could be, or he could have made it up. Source: your resident trolling expert. (There are two ways to parse that.)

your raisin rolling expert?

you reside nt roll in gex per t?

This doesn't make sense, in what other language besides English would this be parsable?

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

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No, it would be a hard-as-shit weapon to take away from them. In theory it sounds easy, but culture moves at a glacial pace.

Ireland has been a Christian country since the 800s or thereabouts. It legalised contraception sometime in the 80s, divorce in the 90s and will have gay marriage some time this decade. None of these things are compatible with Christianity as it has been understood for most of its existence. Culture can move very fast. In 100 years if there's anyone close enough to look at us as people rather than precursors they will…

And what moved the culture? Legislation. The very same legislation that the Internet libertarian crew who tell us to "change the culture rather than using the men with guns" generally oppose. So, yeah, that kind of proves the point.

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

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post #59
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A somewhat related note is that America's culture of sex-negativity, shame and general hysteria around nudity is a required prerequisite for this type of bullying and abuse. Look at the following paragraph: > Jill became hysterical, repeating, "Oh, my God. No. Oh, my God. No." This is, obviously, the reaction of someone who fears repercussions from others. And this is for completely harmless acts (taking nude photos)…

America is sex-negative? I wish. We've sexualized every inch of women's bodies to the point where we've started sexualizing empty spaces around them (thigh gap). And nice derailing into "men are hurt by society toooooo!!!" Perverts aren't good, and these days they're called rapists. And there are a lot of them. But maybe you think rape/sexual assault only happens in dark alleys the woman probably shouldn't have been…

>America is sex-negative? I wish. We've sexualized every inch of women's bodies[...]

And that's not sex-negative?

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

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post #10

A somewhat related note is that America's culture of sex-negativity, shame and general hysteria around nudity is a required prerequisite for this type of bullying and abuse. Look at the following paragraph: > Jill became hysterical, repeating, "Oh, my God. No. Oh, my God. No." This is, obviously, the reaction of someone who fears repercussions from others. And this is for completely harmless acts (taking nude photos)…

I do not disagree with you, but in my eyes a sex-positive culture will not prevent the Hunter Moores of the world from making other people's lives miserable. Shaming over nudity is just one example, one way. I'm glad the FBI & judicial system appear to have been effective in this story. The fundamental reason this sort of thing happens (again, in my eyes) is because the internet is still a pretty lawless place; that'…

There's a major difference between making people temporarily feel miserable and ruining their lives over a long period of time.

And in these cases, the difference is social context and the hysteria surrounding sexuality and nudity, not the likes of Hunter Moore.

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

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I am surprised that someone didn't injure the man, or worse.

Wikipedia says one of the victims stabbed him, but there are no citations.

I've added some: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hunter_Moore&diff...

Re: One Woman's Dangerous War Against the Most Hated Man on the Internet

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Just a thought: if every American here railing against the ridiculously prudish American culture could pretty please keep in mind that if they offer a service that for instance bans people from posting pictures or distributing apps because "boobies", you are part of the problem.

This is often so easily dismissed on HN as "my product, my rules", when it is actually a political statement of support for, or at least surrender to, the notion that nudity is something wrong and shameful, especially for women.

You wanna solve the problem, start by cleaning up your own act, and take the anti-"porn" provisions out of your TOS, and stop crucifying your users for posting ordinary holiday snapshots because, "boobies".

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