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Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by potangina »

laumars wrote: post #438
smoyer wrote: post #357

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I hear a lot of people claim that, but the reality is that many people run applications they don't realize are Java, and a lot of the infrastructure you rely on runs Java behind it. As a JavaEE architect/developer, I whole-heartedly agree that you shouldn't run Applets in your browser anymore. In fact, unsigned applets will no longer run after January of 2014, which will break a lot of the banking infrastructure and…

This isn't even a java applet. It's java server side code. There is absolutely no reason for the former poster to boycott this aside from ignorant pig-headedness (and this is coming from someone who isn't exactly a fan of java himself)

what is that?

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by altero »

icebraining wrote: post #440
altero wrote: post #353

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So to copy album into phone I have to upload to web, than download it to phone? I could also use USB 1.0 or serial port with similar speed. Until network will be more reliable and faster than my hdd, there is not much to discus.

What's the USB speed when you're three miles from home?

20 MB/s, my phone has USB Host :-)

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by Intermernet »

Helianthus wrote: post #340
eksith wrote: post #325

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That's all well and good, but let's take a look at what the trigger was https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5615120 . If you ran a community -- and realistically there's nothing stopping you from doing so -- would you tolerate that kind of nonsense? I know I wouldn't want to hang around there if you did. You're right (to continue going slightly meta), it's a policy of elitism, but in the same vein as Wikipedia. They…

If the mountains of downvotes don't do the trick you can ban accounts directly. Hellbanning is cowardly and ineffective. This isn't Wikipedia, it's a discussion forum--and the discussion pages on Wikipedia are moderated fairly and openly. I didn't mean that quality as a whole was fictional, I meant that the notion of quality this policy is attempting to enact was fictional/unattainable. Flame wars still happen. Peopl…

Discussion forums are for discussion. Angry conversation is an emergent property of some discussions, on the net or off, but not the sole response to anything you may disagree with.

My own opinion on hell-banning or any other forms of account "punishment" is that it is, as you say, cowardly and ineffective, as long as the user has no idea that it has occurred. Either inform the user, or completely ban the account. Otherwise you're leaving people screaming into the wind when you could just tell them no-one is listening.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by 72deluxe »

wattengard wrote: post #442
euank wrote: post #279

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You don't need to. Since subsonic is Open Source, there's naturally multiple forks with the licensing code removed. The best fork, which also adds features, is madsonic[0]. I recommend it. In addition, if you already have subsonic, the license code is simply a check if your password = the md5 of your email. So using "example@example.com" and "23463b99b62a72f26ed677cc556c44e8" will make it think you're a valid subscri…

Sorry but the front of that page made me throw up a bit in my mouth and just close it back down again...

I like how they used a massive picture and then scaled it down in the IMG tag instead of just resizing the picture and putting it on the page. Very entertaining...!

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by 72deluxe »

csmuk wrote: post #303
smrtinsert wrote: post #192

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There is so much lost when moving to the cloud. Off the top of my head: You tie your data to one provider instead of simply physical media, you lose discoverability (will your kids browse your album choices 30 years from now?), exporting/importing quality is at the mercy of the provider (for example Amazon dropped several dozen mp3s when I migrated a few gigs to Google), and of course you place your data at the mercy…

Agree. I'm doing the same with everything related to "the cloud". The current international political climate doesn't support this model. Also with music, I point blank refuse to let music turn into a subscription based service. I still buy CDs when something agrees with my ears and listen to them. I also quite happily transcribe things to sheet music and play it breaking many a royalty and public performance law. Fu…

Hurray for the CD purchasers! I thought I was the only one left doing this! I too cannot abide a cloud based service for listening to music. I understand the merits of Google's music service but given the fleeting nature of cloud based services, I would rather have a physical copy of something that I can rerip if necessary (and look at the sleeve notes). Having to download music over my limited mobile connection whilst out and about doesn't sound like fun, particularly when the cost of an iPod Classic (with sufficient storage for all of my music, unlike the Touch) is negligible, and the dodgy nature of coverage in hilly areas in the UK. I am chuffed that CD buyers still exist!

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by shellehs »

caycep wrote: post #80
jaysonelliot wrote: post #74

I just switched back to Winamp after getting fed up with the latest release of iTunes. At least it's a real application that I can download and own for myself, and doesn't stop working just because it's no longer being supported. This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud, or use browser-based apps for things that matter to me. Hopefully they'll release the codebase to the world.

Why winamp? my understanding is that it's long been surpassed by other apps, i.e. foobar, even VLC

I think it's just for good-old-day's memory. Just like Super Mario.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by Toenex »

jaysonelliot wrote: post #74

I just switched back to Winamp after getting fed up with the latest release of iTunes. At least it's a real application that I can download and own for myself, and doesn't stop working just because it's no longer being supported. This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud, or use browser-based apps for things that matter to me. Hopefully they'll release the codebase to the world.

As Linux user forced to use OSX at work I've settled on VOX [http://coppertino.com/vox/] as suitable player for OSX.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by 72deluxe »

VLM wrote: post #257
evanmoran wrote: post #133

The magic moment was when we all realized, pretty much simultaneously, that CDs and radio were obsolete. And this wasn't from some iterative Moore's Law like growth in hard drive size, it was sudden algorithmic brilliance that allowed music to be compressed small enough to be easily downloaded and shared. Suddenly digital distribution seemed inevitable and obvious. We could listen to whole collections of songs very,…

"And this wasn't from some iterative Moore's Law" It was WRT CPU power. I remember having to use some specially compiled for 486 player to just barely be able to play mp3s. Before that on my 386-40 I was below real time. I'm pretty sure this is what I was using: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/mpg123-oss-i486 This was the days long before P2P, using binaries usenet groups. Or ripping songs yourself, which took qui…

Haha ah yes, I remember being amazed by a friend who could convert WAVs to MP3s faster than ripping the CD to WAV. Good times. I remember a base Pentium 90 laptop struggling to play MP3s in Winamp, not massively high bitrate either. I could just about play MP3s on a 486 DX2 66Mhz (and discovered MODs etc. at that time too - smaller to download, using floppy disk and a school's internet access). I was amazed with Grip and its ability to rip and convert straight to MP3s, but it took forever. Good times using RH 6.2.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by brusch »

fat0wl wrote: post #296
etler wrote: post #237

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At least with winamp, there weren't really any major changes since Justin Frankel left, and what made it amazing back then is still in the program now.

Foobar2000 is also pretty stable and awesome -- just need to drop in the Facets component & it's a dream. Winamp is a nice memory from back in the Napster days tho. :)

Thank you - I always looked down to Foobar2000 (it looked to basic for). But now I've downloaded it and it looks great !

Thank you for the tip. The facet plugin is great - exactly what I wanted.

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