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Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by SkyMarshal »

smrtinsert wrote: post #192
rm999 wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud Music is a great use-case for keeping data in the cloud. You can have a consistent music library and can use any player client-side. Personally I prefer the spotify "all-you-can-listen" model, but I have a bunch of MP3s that aren't on spotify that I seamlessly stream from dropbox (either to winamp or the spotify client, which allows you to sync lo…

There is so much lost when moving to the cloud. Off the top of my head: You tie your data to one provider instead of simply physical media, you lose discoverability (will your kids browse your album choices 30 years from now?), exporting/importing quality is at the mercy of the provider (for example Amazon dropped several dozen mp3s when I migrated a few gigs to Google), and of course you place your data at the mercy…

Try Mopidy [1], it's a version of mpd that plays all your music - local files, Spotify, Soundcloud, Rdio, etc. It's awesome.

[1]: http://www.mopidy.com/

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by PavlovsCat »

sandGorgon wrote: post #41
bbx wrote: post #36

Was using Winamp 5 for the past year but recently switched back to v2.95, which is allegedly the best version out there. Although it's 10 years old (!!), it's still the best music player available: lightweight, fast, responsive, and kept simple . I had hopes for the Windows 7 Media Player. But it turned out to be a dreadful experience. Me: Can't I pause that song by hitting space? WMP: No, there are no keyboard short…

Did you ever try Foobar 2k - its arguably a better replacement for Winamp on windows

also nice: http://www.aimp.ru

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by hipaulshi »

rm999 wrote: post #100
jaysonelliot wrote: post #74

I just switched back to Winamp after getting fed up with the latest release of iTunes. At least it's a real application that I can download and own for myself, and doesn't stop working just because it's no longer being supported. This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud, or use browser-based apps for things that matter to me. Hopefully they'll release the codebase to the world.

> This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud Music is a great use-case for keeping data in the cloud. You can have a consistent music library and can use any player client-side. Personally I prefer the spotify "all-you-can-listen" model, but I have a bunch of MP3s that aren't on spotify that I seamlessly stream from dropbox (either to winamp or the spotify client, which allows you to sync lo…

I strongly agree with this comment. I still wish there is an easy solution for hosting all my music in different original format without a high cost, but also playable through a cloud player. Music is something that I need it constantly but don't really mind if it is lost in a few years. I used to run Subsonic on beagleboard but it barely keeps up with converting flac to mp3 at stream time. I am looking at http://meetlima.com/ but I don't think that is what I want. iTune integration will become a huge issue unless it pops up as a Shared music.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by tteam »

hyrehas wrote: post #275
tteam wrote: post #252

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You can check out our personal cloud software Tonido ( http://www.tonido.com ). It organizes all your music, video collection and makes it available from anywhere. We have very good mobile apps for iOS, Android and even for Windows 8. You don't need to take our word. Just check the app ratings and reviews in app stores.

Tonido sucks. Nothing but issues and problems with it and support is non-existent. Stay away!

you just created an account to say this :). Looks like we are getting popular. Please check our forum, our community and make an informed decision.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by AndyKelley »

endgame wrote: post #217
AndyKelley wrote: post #144

This seems like a good time to plug my latest open source project: libgroove [1] It's a cross-platform music player backend C library. It's meant to be generic enough to be the backend of any music player. I use it as the backend for Groove Basin [2] which just might hit milestone 1.0.0 around December 20. [1]: https://github.com/superjoe30/libgroove [2]: https://github.com/superjoe30/groovebasin

Nice interface, but what does groovebasin offer that mpd doesn't?

I'll just name one: perfect replaygain. Meaning it uses the same code to decode and play audio as it does to scan and detect loudness. MPD does no replaygain scanning and only understands APEv2 tags. You have to manage replaygain scanning yourself, and if you have audio that does not support APEv2 tags you're shit out of luck. Groove Basin on the other hand does lazy multi-core replaygain scanning and everything it can play (which is everything that libav can decode (in other words anything that VLC can play)) it can scan. So you never run into that situation where you are listening to a quiet song, turn the volume up, and then a loud song blasts your ears off.

There are a bunch of other flaws in MPD's design which I've carefully fixed in the design of libgroove/groovebasin. I know because Groove Basin used to be an MPD client until I got stuck by all of the issues and then finally ripped out MPD and wrote my own backend to use instead.

I have a WIP blog article that goes into more detail about this stuff. This Winamp article might just be the kick in the pants I need to get it finished :)

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by fat0wl »

etler wrote: post #237
jaysonelliot wrote: post #74

I just switched back to Winamp after getting fed up with the latest release of iTunes. At least it's a real application that I can download and own for myself, and doesn't stop working just because it's no longer being supported. This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud, or use browser-based apps for things that matter to me. Hopefully they'll release the codebase to the world.

At least with winamp, there weren't really any major changes since Justin Frankel left, and what made it amazing back then is still in the program now.

Foobar2000 is also pretty stable and awesome -- just need to drop in the Facets component & it's a dream. Winamp is a nice memory from back in the Napster days tho. :)

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by bartl »

badman_ting wrote: post #286
tsumnia wrote: post #164

There are ultimately two types of people in the comments right now: those that will miss Winamp and those laughing it was still around. Winamp worked. It played all your MP3s without any of the other fluff. It played your music in a very lightweight program. What was also nice was this was before every program auto-updated; so you'd manually have to go update it; except, the newer versions were adding features, not f…

It worked for playing MP3s, but once you had a collection of a certain size it didn't do a very good job of managing that collection, at least at the time I stopped using it. You'd double-click an MP3 or a playlist and it would completely forget about everything that was in there before. I got so sick of that.

You can change that with a setting in the preferences.
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