This is hilarious, liked it. Here's another one: [315 points] You should work from Starbucks. [262 points] Why working from home or Starbucks is a bad idea.
I actually have a screenshot of something like this - http://i.imgur.com/dtFupzL.png
What 4chan thinks of HN
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#2324chan's commenting system is simultaneously more annoying, and more enjoyable to use. The backtrack style lets you follow conversations, but it doesn't become a nested nightmare. Backtracks also highlight comments of importance or significance. the Reddit/HN system is hunting the most valuable comments through democracy, but it throws that work out because of its visible tree structure. People can ride the top post.…
I absolutely love 4chan with quote inlining switched on. You get all the benefits of a flat conversation (which I think is much easier to follow,) but if you need context on a post, you can expand the replies into something resembling a thread without losing your place on the page. It's a win-win. It's definitely a shame about the captcha, but like a couple of people have already said, it's necessary.
It's also a slight (human) deterrent.
I've personally found myself deleting some comments not worth being said, usually at the captchas. I can only imagine this goes for others and in other situations.
Here, the quality check is rather the wish to actually contribute.
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#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
Parodies are usually funny because they're true. The citations in HN comments are some of the most valuable contributions to the site. This whole post is depressing. Far from lighthearted fun, these comments all have an undercurrent of hostility ("wannabe-academic"). The mosaic formed by these comments imply pg has harmed the world by creating HN. But that couldn't be further from the truth. Imagine where you'd be fo…
A wikipedia link is not a citation.
Depends on the context. HN is not a scientific journal.
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#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
Kissing someone who doesn't want to be kissed is sexual assault! I don't understand how you can be denying that? It definitely definitely is sexual assault. If you want to kiss somebody and you want to not sexually assault them, you have to ask them first. And you have to give them room to say no and consider the social power you have over them. Did this person do that? No, absolutely not. If you don't think this stu…
I really wasn't sure if you were a parody account created by 4chan for amusement purposes, but apparently you've been here a while, so: - Sexual boundaries were already crossed at the stage of people willingly doing body shots off each other. - You are discussing rape. Nobody at any point has alleged rape. Rape is a serious criminal allegation you really shouldn't be bandying about lightly. - She /survived/ an unwant…
I'm not a parody, I'm 100% serious.
> Sexual boundaries were already crossed at the stage of people willingly doing body shots off each other.
You completely misunderstand. I'm pretty sure you're doing it deliberately too, but let's assume you're not. If people were “willingly” doing body shots off each other, then in what way were “sexual boundaries” “crossed”? You just mean to say that something “sexual” was happening, therefore the “boundary” between “sexual” and “not sexual” was crossed? Okay, fine, that's trivially true. But given that this was apparently “willingly”, then nobody was being violated, nobody had their own personal boundaries crossed without permission. When the perpetrator kissed the woman without her permission, then he crossed her boundaries without her permission. Do you see the difference?
> You are discussing rape. Nobody at any point has alleged rape. Rape is a serious criminal allegation you really shouldn't be bandying about lightly.
I'm am not bandying it about lightly. Sexual assault and rape, if not synonymous, are obviously very related acts. I gave some statistics for how often rape is punished. I think it's reasonable to assume that the statistics for sexual assault are similar if not the same. My point was that you need not worry about “serious criminal allegations”, the justice system does not care about women who are sexually assaulted or raped.
> She /survived/ an unwanted kiss? Are you sure that is an appropriate definition of 'survived'?
The term “survivor” is preferred to the term “victim”. I'm not a huge fan of it but it's better than “victim”.[1]
> "The 'dumb guy' doesn't deserve to have his life ruined? Maybe..." You're "maybe" sure someone doesn't deserve to have their life ruined?
If you look at my comment history, you see I oppose prisons and the justice system in its entirety. But I don't feel like it's my place to say what this guy “deserves”. But anyway, you're still ignoring that this is an abstract, theoretical discussion: the fact is that this woman's life, in all likelihood has actually been ruined, for the time being at least. The perpetrator will never face any criminal repercussions. Yet, you're still empathising with the perpetrator, and not at all with the survivor.
> What defines one person as the victim and the other as the perpetrator? Who do you think came out worse for this interaction, the person blogging about their assault or the person who, when asked not to do sexual things, stopped, and then was accused of sexual assault across the entire internet?
The perpetrator is the person who kissed the woman (who didn't want to be kissed) without her permission. The “victim” is the one whose left the situation feeling sexually violated. It's pretty clear and you know it is.
I don't know who came out of it worse, but you're acting like this person was wrongly accused of sexual assault, but it's exactly what they did. If you don't want to be publicly accused of sexual assault then you shouldn't sexually assault people.
> Please use grown up language. 'fuck you' is not grown up language. See: http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
You're using the tone argument.[2] This is pretty weak. In any case, I'd like to think I'd be able to say “fuck you for victim blaming” to your face in real life (in accordance with the guidelines), but realistically I would probably just hold it in.
> Me pointing out that two people did stupid things is not 'rape minded'. You are attempting to shame me for disagreeing with you, which is morally reprehensible.
I never said that you're rape-minded, that's a ridiculous misreading of my post. I'm saying that the perpetrator of this assault was rape-minded. The point of the definition of rape-mindedness is that there are lots of things like this which are “not rape”, but are still leave the survivor feeling sexually violated, and the concept of rape-mindedness captures what it is about the behaviour of the perpetrator that leaves the survivor with that feeling.
Also, you keep insisting that the survivor is as responsible for this as the perpetrator. You're completely ignoring the social power that the perpetrator had over the survivor.
[1]: http://akhilak.com/blog/2012/03/13/why-words-matter-victim-v...
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's political correctness. Nigger in particularly has had a nice and storied discussion on how arbitrary it's acceptability is. You think you're not being a dick, but your sensitivity is blinding you. I've called my friends things far worse than what nigger objectively means, but the social constructs around it are so bizarre as to make it taboo, but only taboo in my context. Just like sex is taboo. Just like drugs…
Man, I just love hearing that word. Thought maybe I wouldn't on HN... but guess I was wrong. Also... if you think you've called your friends worse than what the n-word means and symbolizes, you clearly don't know much about the history of it. You're really trying to say "Ni er is just a taboo."?
honestly. It's not worth discussing here. This is a discussion that can only functionally be carried out when names can be tied to faces, because people are so self righteous about it. I don't want to be targeted. Sorry.
Re: What 4chan thinks of HN
#237Why again are we concerned about what 4chan thinks?
See the other top 20 posts on HN about how lack of anonymity will ruin youtube and G+ because of the not so hidden assumption that anonymous commentators result in a higher level of commentary. Talking about 4chan is a political statement. I like 4chan because its the standup comedy of the internet. Most of what you hear you wouldn't say to your mom, both are funnier if you're a bit drunk or whatever, some level of e…
You are claiming that most HNers use 4chan? Interesting, but likely impossible to prove. I hope for the sake of our field that's not true, or maybe I'm just getting old and crotchety.
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
I imagine because 'doing shots with your boss is a sexual thing and a dumb idea, and someone kissing you is an unwelcome advance but not assault' is a point that resonated with a lot of people. 'Kissing your subordinate at work' is also a dumb idea, of course. But, from reading the reports of the other people there, this was an illegitimate accusation of sexual assault, and what amounted to a dumb guy who escalated a…
Kissing someone who doesn't want to be kissed is sexual assault! I don't understand how you can be denying that? It definitely definitely is sexual assault. If you want to kiss somebody and you want to not sexually assault them, you have to ask them first. And you have to give them room to say no and consider the social power you have over them. Did this person do that? No, absolutely not. If you don't think this stu…
Kissing someone who doesn't want to be kissed is sexual assault
If you assume all kissing is sexual in nature.
Re: What 4chan thinks of HN
#239this is awesome.
Re: What 4chan thinks of HN
#240How could they have left out the patronizing irrelevant [0] links [1] to Wikipedia [2] in all the wannabe-academic [3] comments with references[4]? (and yes, references must be 0-based [5]) [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relevance [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_resource_locator [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academia [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citation [5…
Parodies are usually funny because they're true. The citations in HN comments are some of the most valuable contributions to the site. This whole post is depressing. Far from lighthearted fun, these comments all have an undercurrent of hostility ("wannabe-academic"). The mosaic formed by these comments imply pg has harmed the world by creating HN. But that couldn't be further from the truth. Imagine where you'd be fo…
So you think its fine for a news site to only cover the ~10 topics covered by the various 4chan complaints? Do you blog on a node.js powered meteor ported to go with beatz by dre too?