don't think it's totally unreasonable to speculate that plus could become the 'new tab page' in chrome down the line, the way things are going
Dear Googles: G+/YouTube Anschluss – you've done outed me
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Re: Dear Googles: G+/YouTube Anschluss – you've done outed me
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think everyone has to leave Google for you to have productive anonymous discussions. For what it's worth, I think reputations (under anonymous usenames) are A very important component in having accountability and quality in discussions.
Anonymity is vital for many types of discussions. Can you imagine HN working if people were required to put their name and job titles ? Just because someone works for Microsoft for example does that make their support or criticism of the company any less valuable. Or what about all the political discussions where there could be legitimate fears of reprisal by government agencies.
Quora works surprisingly well with a real names policy. They let you post particular comments anonymously if you want. Then it's pretty obvious when people are using anonymity for good reasons and when they're just being dickish. There, community voting plus some moderation polices things pretty well.
Re: Dear Googles: G+/YouTube Anschluss – you've done outed me
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am sure you were joking, but to clarify and expand: Why do men seek contact with the opposite sex more frequently than women? Why do they tend to do so in a way that seems to bother the woman in question? Why are women not doing the same to men?
Part of it is purely game theoretic. Once one person realizes it's a successful strategy to send more messages then their competition, their competition also has to send more messages. Arms race quickly ensues. And once you have such an arms race on one side, the other gender no longer has to even bother initiating conversations. Why did the arms race tip towards men competing and women getting it easy? Probably cult…
> "Why did the arms race tip towards men competing and women getting it easy? Probably cultural norms."
Cultural norms that are followed by every live-birthing animal species, how strange.
Re: Dear Googles: G+/YouTube Anschluss – you've done outed me
#124This is fascinating: is the internet not as male as we all thought? Is the default assumption that it's male and women have wrapped themselves in the safety of the net's ultimate default setting?
So far as I'm aware, at least since the early 2000s or so, women have contributed the majority of user-created content on the internet. They just don't visibly do it in the few relatively small echo-chamber places HN readers are likely to frequent, so HN readers end up assuming that the internet looks like what they see on HN.
Re: Dear Googles: G+/YouTube Anschluss – you've done outed me
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is that anonymity leading to great conversation is disproved by reality. This move, though short sighted and ill advised, is precisely to combat the cluster fuck that is YouTube comments powered by anonymity. I'm not sure what the solution is, but one look at the quality of anonymous unmodderated comments calls for one.
I keep asking this question and getting no response, so I'll ask it again: Is there any evidence that any site anywhere has seen an uptick in comment quality by requiring real names? Anecdotally, any time I see a news website with Facebook Connect the comments are still swill. While I'd be willing to consider evidence to the contrary, I think this is a false correlation. Observing that anonymous comment threads tend…
None.
Re: Dear Googles: G+/YouTube Anschluss – you've done outed me
#126Maybe Google is trying to do us a favor, and spare us the illusion of anonymity when true anonymity is dead. That's my most charitable interpretation. Less charitably, they simply don't care how their policies happen to burn x% of their user base: "we'll you probably shouldn't be active online if you can't deal with a few stalkers."
The latter is literally what they think.
Re: Dear Googles: G+/YouTube Anschluss – you've done outed me
#127Public and/or anonymous data should be posted to a single global, anonymous, distributed storage system [1]. All other data should be stored on your personal system with 700 permissions, and require explicit pull requests from your system parties interested in using it.
This setup could offer a public, searchable medium that is safe for anonymous discourse, and includes plausible deniability, as well as a protected personal space with fine-grained access control. A brightnet/darknet system.
Re: Dear Googles: G+/YouTube Anschluss – you've done outed me
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
I _think_ this has happened because I have seen comments on Youtube with real name (or at least appearing to be real names) that I can't believe someone would leave with their real names attached to it. But still speculation on my part
It could just be that they did leave the comment on purpose, though. Most online newspapers in my country have switched to a full-name policy over the last year, and you wouldn't believe the things people manage to spew out even when their full name and photo are attached to the post. I am increasingly convinced that full-name discussion => fewer moronic comments is a fallacy. Or at the very least a vastly overestima…
Whenever people advocate such a thing, I ask them for evidence it works, rather than just being something that sounds good. I have yet to receive any whatsoever.
Re: Dear Googles: G+/YouTube Anschluss – you've done outed me
#129I am a Google fan, but this move by shoving something down everyone's throats isn't very Google.
Ever since G+ started, two years ago, it's totally Google. This is who Google is now.
Re: Dear Googles: G+/YouTube Anschluss – you've done outed me
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
You cant . That's the problem. You automatically get that profile by having a gmail account. They're trying to force you to use that profile for YouTube as well. Google has these incredibly valuable products and that work great separately but they're trying to mash everything together.
False. You can delete just your G+ profile here: https://support.google.com/plus/answer/1044503?hl=en
This turns out not to actually stay deleted: