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What 4chan thinks of HN
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Re: What 4chan thinks of HN
#122Sadly, most of the things on there are true. We can try to deny it all we want, but most of the stuff that's there is true. The power of anonymity is that you get to voice honest opinions without tying it up with your identity and/or feeling responsible for it. Of course, this can be argued otherwise too, by citing some (bad) comments as example from that thread, but for the most part, what you see there are honest c…
I laughed hard at this realization. But you have to think about it. I rather have whatever hackernews is than 4chan.
Im glad both exist TBH. Life cant be all serious :)
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So, is it mere political correctness which prevents me from calling people "nigger"? Or, is it a desire to respect my fellow human beings? It's not about political correctness. It's about not being a dick. I've said nothing about saying controversial things...I've called out intentional attacks by people with power on people with less power. White kids calling everybody nigger isn't an important discussion that neede…
But political correctness can prevent you from questioning progressive dogmas. Many of them are not born out by fact, but it is impolite to disagree with them. If the facts don't agree with my opinions, I change my mind. But that rapidly pushes you into thought-criminal territory in today's world.
OK, I think maybe we're talking past one another. So, let's get specific: What "progressive dogma" have I brought up that you believe we should be able to discuss and that you should be able to disagree with?
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#124This is like approaching a tribe and tearing apart its social fabric. Anthropologically speaking it's never the right approach. There are times when you just have to accept certain behavior. Let the system adjust from within.
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#125what would be awesome is if the mods here changed the title to "ITT: we hacker news now"
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
But political correctness can prevent you from questioning progressive dogmas. Many of them are not born out by fact, but it is impolite to disagree with them. If the facts don't agree with my opinions, I change my mind. But that rapidly pushes you into thought-criminal territory in today's world.
OK, I think maybe we're talking past one another. So, let's get specific: What "progressive dogma" have I brought up that you believe we should be able to discuss and that you should be able to disagree with?
You haven't brought up any. But some are pretty common. I'm just arguing that PC prevents free thought and the dispassionate analysis of evidence, since it applies moral values to the evidence itself and it prejudicially strikes out some plausible hypotheses.
For example, I don't buy that racism is the sole reason for the underrepresentation of some ethnic minority groups in tech because other ethnic minority groups that have been historically oppressed and discriminated against are overrepresented in tech. But if someone posted an article about how "tech is racist" and I said "I'm not sure that tech is racist", then someone could call me a racist and I could lose my job if someone got offended.
So anonymity is essential for exploring non-progressive ideas and, I think, for getting closer to truth. There are lots of non-progressive/anti-progressive ideas that are plausible given the available evidence, but nobody will discuss under their real name.
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I've seen too many discussion that didn't happen because people were stymied by political correctness. It's there because it's constantly stopped, and it should be there.
So, is it mere political correctness which prevents me from calling people "nigger"? Or, is it a desire to respect my fellow human beings? It's not about political correctness. It's about not being a dick. I've said nothing about saying controversial things...I've called out intentional attacks by people with power on people with less power. White kids calling everybody nigger isn't an important discussion that neede…
It's political correctness. Nigger in particularly has had a nice and storied discussion on how arbitrary it's acceptability is.
You think you're not being a dick, but your sensitivity is blinding you. I've called my friends things far worse than what nigger objectively means, but the social constructs around it are so bizarre as to make it taboo, but only taboo in my context. Just like sex is taboo. Just like drugs are taboo. Just like homosexuality was taboo (and remains taboo in some areas).
Further, there's an aspect to 4chan you're not seeing, and it's how much they hate and punish the kind of narcissism you accuse them of. A net good.
I've seen openly homosexual people posting on 4chan about their lifestyles with absolutely no condemnation. It is not an exception to a rule. You have mischaracterized this demographic. Badly.
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#128I love how anonymity engenders such honest commentary. When people aren't tied down to their reputation/ego, they are free to say what they really think.
Some folks probably should feel tied down by their reputation/ego. Casual sexism, misogyny, racism, homophobia, etc. for a laugh brings the entire discussion down to a level that I don't have any desire to participate in. I think anonymity is awesome. But, 4chan is often on par with YouTube in terms of the quality of its comments. Sure, there's some smart kids there (some younger friends of mine are regularly channer…
So you are saying that we should abandon freedom of expression and attach IDs to anyone who has anything to say, in order to instigate retribution against those who disagree with your worldview? How will this not lead to censorship (and self-censorship) and hugboxing? If you don't want to participate in an anonymous discussion, that's your choice, but don't try to deprive others of it.
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Wikipedia links as references in comments are helpful Initially, I thought you were referring to the "Submission is a link to a wikipedia article"
how so? google makes linking to wikipedia rather irrelevant. Although of course it's the very linking to wikipedia (et al) that makes google so good.
Its a great convenience, I don't have to take adittional actions to find what I'm actually interested in
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Being susceptible and unwilling to accept it makes you manipulatable. If one person cracking watermelon jokes gets under your skin, think what a psychopath with an end game pounding the drum of affirmative action can do. Outrage is definitely a weakness.
> Being susceptible and unwilling to accept it makes you manipulatable. If one person cracking watermelon jokes gets under your skin, think what a psychopath with an end game pounding the drum of affirmative action can do. I'm afraid I'm not following your logic. Care to explain further?
if you react to a negative social appeal emotionally, you will react to a positive social appeal in the same manner.
Basically, if I can get you to react with misogyny, I have a level of control over you.