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Re: What 4chan thinks of HN

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Post by AlexMax »

babby wrote: post #81
AlexMax wrote: post #17

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Is it really honest? Anonymous discussion tends to bring out the bigots - there's even some of it in the linked thread - but is it their genuine opinion, or could it be that it's just bored teenagers trying to rile someone up for a laugh?

You bring up an interesting point to discuss. I see this kind of "shock" throughout the techy mainstreamy politcally correct communities. It seems to me that the people that take issue with bigotry are themselves somehow weak through some kind of insecurity manifesting itself as a desire to fix this perceived "injustice". Because, you know, muh feels. 4chan just doesn't care about your feels. It's funny to say this (…

> It seems to me that the people that take issue with bigotry are themselves somehow weak through some kind of insecurity manifesting itself as a desire to fix this perceived "injustice". Because, you know, muh feels.

Being empathetic is a weakness?

Re: What 4chan thinks of HN

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Post by sliverstorm »

angersock wrote: post #59
mehmehshoe wrote: post #45

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Oh I was in tears by the third Stallman posting. It looks like he was posting the same things in other threads as well. Stallman spamming

There are actually rampaging Stallman bots that will post those. It's pretty great, actually. New startup idea: Stallman-as-a-service.

Stallman-as-a-service

Written in either Go or JS, of course. Preferably both.

Re: What 4chan thinks of HN

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Post by SwellJoe »

GhotiFish wrote: post #99
SwellJoe wrote: post #86

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Some folks probably should feel tied down by their reputation/ego. Casual sexism, misogyny, racism, homophobia, etc. for a laugh brings the entire discussion down to a level that I don't have any desire to participate in. I think anonymity is awesome. But, 4chan is often on par with YouTube in terms of the quality of its comments. Sure, there's some smart kids there (some younger friends of mine are regularly channer…

I've seen too many discussion that didn't happen because people were stymied by political correctness. It's there because it's constantly stopped, and it should be there.

So, is it mere political correctness which prevents me from calling people "nigger"? Or, is it a desire to respect my fellow human beings?

It's not about political correctness. It's about not being a dick. I've said nothing about saying controversial things...I've called out intentional attacks by people with power on people with less power. White kids calling everybody nigger isn't an important discussion that needed to happen to further the discourse on race in America. It's a bunch of privileged white kids being little shits and perpetuating and endorsing centuries of oppression.

So, yeah, anonymity is great. But, the culture of 4chan is often racist, misogynist, sexist, and homophobic. That's privileged people having fun reveling in their privilege at the expense of those with less power. I just don't see the appeal.

Obviously, I'm not suggesting censorship (or maybe somebody has assumed I am, since I've been downvoted a bit). I'm suggesting that the casual culture of oppressive language as it is used by the mostly white, mostly middle class, people on 4chan is a negative for the world. And, I'm pointing it out for what it is. It always gets wrapped up in, "You just don't understand, it's funny!" But, minstrel shows were considered funny, too. It doesn't make it OK.

Re: What 4chan thinks of HN

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Post by [deleted] »

marincounty wrote: post #78
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #21

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I think the business of being an entrepreneur selects for such traits. The whole notion of "disruption" that is central to so many of the ideas floating on HN, is rooted in the arrogance necessary to make them work.

I have found that if a person calls themself an Entrepreneur; they usually have delusions of grandeur--and hide behind that title. They go through life wondering why no one wants them around. Kinda pathetic.

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Re: What 4chan thinks of HN

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Post by dhruvmittal »

neya wrote: post #61

Sadly, most of the things on there are true. We can try to deny it all we want, but most of the stuff that's there is true. The power of anonymity is that you get to voice honest opinions without tying it up with your identity and/or feeling responsible for it. Of course, this can be argued otherwise too, by citing some (bad) comments as example from that thread, but for the most part, what you see there are honest c…

My favorite was

>Disrupt Disruption

Re: What 4chan thinks of HN

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Post by bigtunacan »

neya wrote: post #61

Sadly, most of the things on there are true. We can try to deny it all we want, but most of the stuff that's there is true. The power of anonymity is that you get to voice honest opinions without tying it up with your identity and/or feeling responsible for it. Of course, this can be argued otherwise too, by citing some (bad) comments as example from that thread, but for the most part, what you see there are honest c…

yeah, I really got a kick out of this one...

Show /hn/: I ripped off an existing product and added Bootstrap to it

So true. Health Sherpa comes to mind as one recent example...

Re: What 4chan thinks of HN

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Post by GhotiFish »

AlexMax wrote: post #101
babby wrote: post #81

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You bring up an interesting point to discuss. I see this kind of "shock" throughout the techy mainstreamy politcally correct communities. It seems to me that the people that take issue with bigotry are themselves somehow weak through some kind of insecurity manifesting itself as a desire to fix this perceived "injustice". Because, you know, muh feels. 4chan just doesn't care about your feels. It's funny to say this (…

> It seems to me that the people that take issue with bigotry are themselves somehow weak through some kind of insecurity manifesting itself as a desire to fix this perceived "injustice". Because, you know, muh feels. Being empathetic is a weakness?

Being susceptible and unwilling to accept it makes you manipulatable. If one person cracking watermelon jokes gets under your skin, think what a psychopath with an end game pounding the drum of affirmative action can do.

Outrage is definitely a weakness.

Re: What 4chan thinks of HN

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Post by ibudiallo »

neya wrote: post #61

Sadly, most of the things on there are true. We can try to deny it all we want, but most of the stuff that's there is true. The power of anonymity is that you get to voice honest opinions without tying it up with your identity and/or feeling responsible for it. Of course, this can be argued otherwise too, by citing some (bad) comments as example from that thread, but for the most part, what you see there are honest c…

I laughed hard at this realization. But you have to think about it. I rather have whatever hackernews is than 4chan.

Re: What 4chan thinks of HN

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Post by kyzyl »

sfrechtling wrote: post #100
wfunction wrote: post #55

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*HN culture

As an Australian, my viewpoint into Silicon Valley culture is through HackerNews. What are the main differences then?

Yeah, as a Canadian startup person, my impression of the SV startup scene is largely shaped by what I see on HN, although I do personally know a few people who've participated themselves and what their report seems to correlate.
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