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I've met very very few IT workers who are happy with their jobs

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Re: I've met very very few IT workers who are happy with their jobs

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I'll admit that I am very unhappy with my current job. Part of this is whining, I know, but just hear me out. One major, major, major problem with my job is that I work for a small company, and am the only person here that knows tech at all. This was really great for me at the beginning. I am very proficient in BSD and Linux, so everything (mailserver, file server, FTPs, VPN, firewall, etc.) was built on one the two.…

It sounds like you're unhappy with your current job because you have two (or three) jobs. You need at least one other person to handle day-to-day tech support while you build and maintain the infrastructure. Maybe two people.

But your company is not going to pony up the money for that because it sounds like you're willing to do tech support during the day, then build the infrastructure for them for free, at night.

If you want to be happy at your job, then you need to explain that you're basically doing unpaid work, and that if they want to maintain the current level of service, you need at least one other person.

Re: I've met very very few IT workers who are happy with their jobs

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What are you talking about here? The mailserver is Postfix, the file server is samba, the FTP daemon is VsFTPd, imap is courier imap. Are you a microsoft rep or something? None of this stuff is even remotely "enthusiast". The Contact manager is just a web-frontend that I made for that sits on top of (and supplements) an existing system (as/400 green screens that they hate). I'm sorry, but this is kindof insulting. Wh…

My apologies for offending. DIY is "do it yourself". An enthusiast (like myself) would prefer to use OpenVPN or FreeSWAN instead of a Cisco ASA, would rather use iptables on a Linux box than a commodity firewall, would rather slap a wireless card into an OpenBSD machine rather than to buy a commodity access point, etc. This is cool and all, but it makes it harder for other folks to deal with. Let's say your on vacati…

Small companies and large companies have entirely different time/money tradeoffs and it can be hard to make the transition. At my previous employer it was fine to spend a week making something work by cobbling together existing projects with some glue code. It was fun and I learned a lot.

So when I started this job (working with large companies) helping out with a co-worker's task I started trying to solve a particular problem the skinflint way, ok we can repurpose this box here to serve a filesystem while the other box is down for the vendor to swap the firmware and then...

My co worker (rightly) pre-empted me and recommended $20,000 of SAN equipment to replace the problematic device.

Neither way is better in the absolute, it's a question of what variable you're optimizing for.

Re: I've met very very few IT workers who are happy with their jobs

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Someone recently commented, here on HN or elsewhere, that IT is often viewed as a cost center, not a profit center. Anyone who has spent any significant amount of time in corporate life knows what happens to cost centers. They are at best "tolerated" and are squeezed as hard as they can be. Anytime the bottom line needs a bump, the first thing requested is a list of "cost centers". (I typed a bunch more, but I think…

That was me :-)

Re: I've met very very few IT workers who are happy with their jobs

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I'll admit that I am very unhappy with my current job. Part of this is whining, I know, but just hear me out. One major, major, major problem with my job is that I work for a small company, and am the only person here that knows tech at all. This was really great for me at the beginning. I am very proficient in BSD and Linux, so everything (mailserver, file server, FTPs, VPN, firewall, etc.) was built on one the two.…

I've been in a similar job before, as the lone tech guy, and one small step that really helped me was to require that all work requests be sent by email. I put a sign on the door to my office/server room that said "Verbal requests will be cheerfully forgotten. Mail to tech@company.com".

That won't get rid of everything that comes in your door, and you may find yourself reduced to sending the email yourself, for something your boss walked in and wanted you to do. And it won't stop the "OMG the network is down" freak-outs, either.

On the other hand, it will hopefully reduce your walk-in interruptions, and it will give you more of a record of the work you're doing. Bosses who don't understand anything beyond rebooting can see how many work requests you're handling in a day, to tell how busy you are. Ideally, you can have the 'tech@' alias CC your boss and other crucial managers, at least at the start, so they can see how much you're doing.

Re: I've met very very few IT workers who are happy with their jobs

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Fuckers need to try cleaning chemical reactors.

By that logic, if you'd tried being an untouchable sewer cleaner in India, you'd have loved your job cleaning chemical reactors by comparison. But somehow, you are allowed to imply that cleaning chemical reactors wasn't much fun, while at the same time disallowing other people from expressing negative feelings about their jobs.

But the logic is valid. He should have loved cleaning chemical reactors in comparison (and he never said he didn't). We should always be trying to improve our lives. But sometimes our current situations aren't ideal, and at those times, I think it is appropriate to mentally establish a context in which that situation is still pretty darn good. You might not find the extreme comparisons intellectually compelling, but someone who adopts this attitude will clearly be happier. So who is the fool?

Re: I've met very very few IT workers who are happy with their jobs

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post #43

Someone recently commented, here on HN or elsewhere, that IT is often viewed as a cost center, not a profit center. Anyone who has spent any significant amount of time in corporate life knows what happens to cost centers. They are at best "tolerated" and are squeezed as hard as they can be. Anytime the bottom line needs a bump, the first thing requested is a list of "cost centers". (I typed a bunch more, but I think…

That was me :-)

Cheers! (From the voting, I think I owe you a few upmods! :-P )

Re: I've met very very few IT workers who are happy with their jobs

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I used to read the Joel On Software forums. The awful life of an IT drone was a common theme, it would show up about twice a week. The sad thing is that I recognize some of the posters' names and it's the same people who were posting the same complaints 6 years ago. If you're still complaining about your career after six years, the problem is you, not your job. I would rather not draw that crowd over here, or have th…

I voted you up.

But I don't fully agree with you. Maybe you didn't mean it but your tone sounds a bit too condescending to me -- like some Wall street rich guy saying if you were poor and still are poor, then it's your own problem, just get out of my sight -- not everybody has a dream job at a dream work place, in fact, I would argue most don't, regardless of industry. Should we care why many IT workers are not happy even if some individuals can't escape the blame? Shouldn't we be a bit more tolerant and listen more so that hopefully we will make the IT a better industry to work in?

Last but not the least, the Joel on Software crowd is not really drawn here with similar submissions, even though I will probably refrain from submitting similar moody articles here, wherever they are from.

Re: I've met very very few IT workers who are happy with their jobs

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I used to read the Joel On Software forums. The awful life of an IT drone was a common theme, it would show up about twice a week. The sad thing is that I recognize some of the posters' names and it's the same people who were posting the same complaints 6 years ago. If you're still complaining about your career after six years, the problem is you, not your job. I would rather not draw that crowd over here, or have th…

I have noticed this phenomenon.

I hate it. I've been working in IT for most of my life in one capacity or another. I LOVE my job. I'm not saying it's easy. I'm the sole income provider for my family of soon to be four and I put in well over 60 hours a week most weeks (salary, and up until now, likely below market value).

I am intellectually stimulated in my job. I have learned how to work with complicated personalities and have learned how not to be a complicated person. I've also learned that a good 20% of my job involves motivating those around me into realizing that the things they are doing are important and fantastic.

I don't get the bad attitudes...My job involves solving problems and building things. I enjoy seeing the result of my work get traffic. I enjoy solving complicated problems. I even enjoy documenting the solution because I know that a small percentage of the folks who have to read it will appreciate what was done.

I see a sense of entitlement amongst some of the folks I work with. They are very smart individuals and expect people around them to just recognize that despite their inability to practically apply their genius into something productive. They're like a jet engine sitting at idle. Lots of potential, lack of motion. I don't know what causes that.

It helps that I work for some of the best people I have ever known. I've seen the "it is what it is" attitude and it drives me crazy. I see a lot of folks in IT that learned how to write software very young, were treated badly for being a nerd and haven't matured into men of action. Perhaps I'm naval gazing a little, as it took me a while to get past that.

But "we build, we create, we solve, we are the great minds that conquer." "It is what it is" is a disease. It is what we choose to do with it.

I imagine that attitude that makes IT folks hate their jobs is the same attitude that will make them hate any job.

I'm really not trying to condemn those who are in a rough spot with technical managers who have no business managing human beings.

I'm just pleased with menloparkbum's assessment. "I would rather not draw that crowd over here, or have their stories reposted, or even links to that forum. That sort of negativity is boring at best and POISONOUS at worst."

Re: I've met very very few IT workers who are happy with their jobs

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Like anything else the vocal minority shouldn't be allowed to represent everyone. I like my job a lot. Even when I was just getting started and doing technical support and desktop support I liked it because I knew it wasn't a long term thing -- just a stepping stone to something better. I think in any career some people get complacent and don't want to work to move up but somehow want their current job to become more satisfying, pay better, and get them more respect. It's not going to happen unless you invest the time and energy into making it happen.

Re: I've met very very few IT workers who are happy with their jobs

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I can't seem to link to an individual comment, so I'm just going to repost it here. It's by Katie Lucas. Begin Quote: The problem with IT, generally, is lack of respect. Because it's something that looks easy and looks like something anyone could do, people don't respect experience and talent. For some reason this just doesn't work in other fields. While everyone feels they can put a sticking plaster on a cut, they g…

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