"Pretty much anyone out there is infringing," said Rockstar's CEO, John Veschi.
Isn't that the definition of a broken system of selection?
Patent war goes nuclear: Microsoft, Apple-owned “Rockstar” sues Google
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How did Microsoft make the Internet worse?
For example by not supporting standards like svg and png as long as they had the market leadership?
On the other hand they ensured that every Windows user had free access to a high quality browser (at least, at the time IE6 came out).
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#383It would be naïve to think they wouldn't do this. Google would do it if they were in the same position. This is mostly a problem with the law, the fact that such a thing is possible is a problem.
Also, pretty much all these companies were invited to join Rockstar to buy the patents, including Google: http://www.techradar.com/... . Except Google decided that they wanted it all for themselves and went against the group, in the end they lost. The only reason to hold these patents are to basically sue other companies, the fact that Google bid against the group over and over again implies that if Google had gotten these patents they would have done exactly the same. So lets not pretend Google is a victim.
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Don't blame the patent system. While it is true that patent system should be reformed/eliminated, those companies chose to take advantage of it. Just because you can steal something when nobody is looking doesn't mean it's justified to be stolen.
Companies are required to maximize their profits, and patents are a legal framework for creating profit. I absolutely blame the patent system, and it's absurd of you to suggest otherwise.
> Companies are required to maximize their profits,
This meme needs to die.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/09/h...
"There are no statutes that put the shareholder at the top of the corporate priority list."
"Nor does the law require, as many believe, that executives and directors owe a special fiduciary duty to shareholders."
It needs to die.
Edit: And there are many, many other places you can find support for this.
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I think separating good guys and bad guys is pretty simple, if one is against (at least software) patents: Using patents aggressively makes you a bad guy. Google has not done this, Microsoft and Apple have.
>Google has not done this, Microsoft and Apple have. Google's Motorola Mobility has sued others based on patents in their portfolio.
This included Google trying to extort absurd sums for FRAND patents.
I don't see how Google gets a free pass because that was its wholly-owned Motorola Mobility when Apple/Microsoft/RIM/etc don't get a free pass because Rockstar is an independent entity.
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#386Just keep overpaying for "pretty" hardware and a mediocre development environment and see where it gets us folks. Apple is just as bad as M$ ever was, they just have more style.
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I'm unhappy with Apple and Microsoft too, but the real enemy is a broken patent system that creates the perverse incentives that motivate companies to launch lawsuits like this one, to the detriment of society. Regardless of who wins, we have already lost, because we have a patent system that discourages innovation and competition in software! Maybe the prospect of patent Armageddon will finally force lawmakers to ad…
This is the logical equivalent of, "don't hate the player, hate the game." And it holds about as much water. If any company in the world has the warchest to bow out of petty patent politics, it's Apple.
Yes! I am perfectly happy to hate the player and the game.
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#388Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't blame the patent system. While it is true that patent system should be reformed/eliminated, those companies chose to take advantage of it. Just because you can steal something when nobody is looking doesn't mean it's justified to be stolen.
> Don't blame the patent system. While it is true that patent system should be reformed/eliminated ... But thats the point. You can blame the companies all you want, another will always be there to step up and take advantage of it. I do blame the companies, but what does it matter? Are we likely going to see an Apple Boycott? I doubt it, and changing one companies business practices will have little impact on the ind…
Every system has its exploits, will you blame those systems for their failures? Individuals are always to blame because individuals are the actors in the broken system. The blame must always lie with those doing wrong, or else we're just absolving ourselves of the hurt we cause each other.
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#389If your patents are obvious enough that 'everybody is infringing', your patent should not have been issued.
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> There is no longer competition about the best user experience or the best technical solution to an engineering problem but competition about who can file the best vague, yet court approved patent and secure the most destructive intellectual properties. I don't understand why we are still only talking about reforming the patent system. Seriously? iOS7 and Android Kit Kat both move user experience forward both in ter…
You have a point and I was a bit polemic. Nonetheless those conflicts do reach the consumer in a significant manner, for example last year, when I updated my smartphone firmware for stability reasons, all the rubber band menus vanished and were replaced by glowing edges because of the ongoing dispute. And those patents weren't even applicable in my country. Also remember all the cases where one side was trying to pro…
I don't dispute that there is an impact but your example shows the real scale of it. Is rubber banding really such a great loss? Yes it's nice but what's the actual impact on the quality of your experience been?
Frankly most of the patents that have been enforced seem to me at least to have been pretty minor and relatively easy to workaround with little real impact on the user.