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Patent war goes nuclear: Microsoft, Apple-owned “Rockstar” sues Google
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This may be true, but let's not get fooled into thinking that because "they" are the enemy, Google must be our friend. Google is playing a very dubious game here, and it has nothing to do with being on "our" side of the patent issue. They've tried to buy the same patents, refused to participate in a joint effort to safeguard those patents for all, and then knowingly violated those patents. All through this, they've b…
I think separating good guys and bad guys is pretty simple, if one is against (at least software) patents: Using patents aggressively makes you a bad guy. Google has not done this, Microsoft and Apple have.
Google's Motorola Mobility has sued others based on patents in their portfolio.
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#363It's a little early to say for sure, but I predict this will do more to hurt Apple's reputation in the tech community than anything they've done before. And that is not a good community to alienate. I would not be surprised if they look back on this move one day and feel that they ended up net worse off as a result. Apple used to be careful not to alienate hackers. And Microsoft has been gradually digging itself out…
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I'm honestly starting to regret choosing to learn Objective-C now. I am seriously considering learning Android development and ditching my Macbook / iPhone for a Nexus 5 and some sort of linux distro. People like me are making this whole situation significantly worse by contributing software to Apple's platform.
This comment is ridiculous. The big players have been playing a patent chess game since 2007. Don't forget Google bid for these patents as well and it's completely ignorant to think they would have not exercised their billion $+ purchase. Google took the initiative a year ago with their Motorola patent portfolio, Samsung took the initiative with their FRAND patents, Apple took the initiative with their design portfol…
tne choice isnt between apple and google or microsoft.
the choice is between proprietary vs freedom software.
dump your apples and macs. choose archlinux, gnu and linux-libre.
Re: Patent war goes nuclear: Microsoft, Apple-owned “Rockstar” sues Google
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What's your evidence for that claim?
I think it's pretty clear when you read things like http://googleblog.blogspot.fi/2011/08/when-patents-attack-an...
Re: Patent war goes nuclear: Microsoft, Apple-owned “Rockstar” sues Google
#366It's a little early to say for sure, but I predict this will do more to hurt Apple's reputation in the tech community than anything they've done before. And that is not a good community to alienate. I would not be surprised if they look back on this move one day and feel that they ended up net worse off as a result. Apple used to be careful not to alienate hackers. And Microsoft has been gradually digging itself out…
I'm unhappy with Apple and Microsoft too, but the real enemy is a broken patent system that creates the perverse incentives that motivate companies to launch lawsuits like this one, to the detriment of society. Regardless of who wins, we have already lost, because we have a patent system that discourages innovation and competition in software! Maybe the prospect of patent Armageddon will finally force lawmakers to ad…
Just because you can steal something when nobody is looking doesn't mean it's justified to be stolen.
Re: Patent war goes nuclear: Microsoft, Apple-owned “Rockstar” sues Google
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"The Rockstar consortium is an organization backed by Apple, Microsoft, BlackBerry, Ericsson and Sony."
Not all members are equal parties and it's not hard to feel that the leaders in this group are Microsoft and Apple. They have the means, the motivation, and both have track record. Blackberry are in no place to do this, Ericsson haven't been of this nature, and whilst Sony could they have enough distraction going on at the moment to focus their attention elsewhere. I also feel those three would gleefully follow Apple…
Re: Patent war goes nuclear: Microsoft, Apple-owned “Rockstar” sues Google
#368Earlier quoted context omitted.
This may be true, but let's not get fooled into thinking that because "they" are the enemy, Google must be our friend. Google is playing a very dubious game here, and it has nothing to do with being on "our" side of the patent issue. They've tried to buy the same patents, refused to participate in a joint effort to safeguard those patents for all, and then knowingly violated those patents. All through this, they've b…
By "refused to participate in a joint effort to safeguard those patents for all" , do you mean that Microsoft offered to buy these patents jointly with Google, in such a way that Microsoft would be able to use them to extort Android manufacturers and Google wouldn't be able to use the patents to help defend them? Because if so that's some pretty heavy spin you're putting on it. edit: excerpt from Google's official re…
>note it was in reference to a different bundle of patents
Then it is isn't relevant here. Also, the irony of using an involved party's statement when complaining about "spin" is palpableRe: Patent war goes nuclear: Microsoft, Apple-owned “Rockstar” sues Google
#369Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not all members are equal parties and it's not hard to feel that the leaders in this group are Microsoft and Apple. They have the means, the motivation, and both have track record. Blackberry are in no place to do this, Ericsson haven't been of this nature, and whilst Sony could they have enough distraction going on at the moment to focus their attention elsewhere. I also feel those three would gleefully follow Apple…
I find it odd that everybody is speculating Apple mostly and Microsoft when the article specifically states Rockstar is acting independently in this regardless of any former promises made by the consortium companies. But yes, time will tell.
Not just the investment, but where the spoils of war will go afterwards and who the winners will be.
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#370What I don't understand is why in the world are companies allowed to buy patents in the first place? At the very least, patents should NOT be transferable. How is it acceptable for companies with big pockets to simply buy 6,000 patents and then sue the shit out of whomever they don't like? I mean, to some degree, I accept that patents in the health-care industry are helping, because research labs spend years and enor…
Know nothing about this. But say they couldn't be transferred. Then you could have moribund companies holding a patent and doing nothing with it thus stopping other people from doing something that would benefit the world. But given that they can be transferred, there is a market, so a moribund company has an incentive to pass the patent on, and the patented thing gets realized, by someone.