Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

Post by gizzlon » Thu, Oct 31, 2013, 7:53 AM UTC

yelnatz wrote: post #200

kamaal wrote: post #191

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I'm a back end developer and don't have much experience with web technologies, so may be some one can enlighten me. Have we really come to a stage, where what Facebook has done after billions of worth investment and thousands of people working, can be cloned with a open source technology in hours? >>I can make a clone of any complex app out there in the web in a matter of minutes/hours. Again how is this possible. Or…

I'm a beginner web developer and I can clone facebook in a few hours. In its core, the app is just users who can friend each other. Add AJAX to that... and tada, something that resembles facebook. Scaling the app to be very reactive, available to millions accessing it at the same time, and with near 100% up time is where the hundreds millions of dollars go. (and all that data mining)

Post by bgarbiak » Thu, Oct 31, 2013, 8:03 AM UTC

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salimane wrote: post #219

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is there any small library ala "notjquery.js" that is a drop in replacement for jquery but that calls the browser native stuff directly ? serious question ?

You probably want something like Zepto.js. I'd also look into Lo-dash, which is a better, more functional-friendly version of Underscore.js that provides a ton of useful helper functions. Be warned: Zepto doesn't claim to support any version of IE, so if you need IE support you'll want to fall back to jquery (yepnope works. Conditional HTML won't in IE10+).

Post by yefim » Thu, Oct 31, 2013, 8:21 AM UTC

arocks wrote: post #218

rafekett wrote: post #190

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I'm sure his project worked, too, it just didn't scale.

This is true. In the Q&A of this video [1], the creator of Z Mongo Admin mentions that the browser will hang if the collections are huge. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeF_b8EQcK0

Post by weixiyen » Thu, Oct 31, 2013, 8:34 AM UTC

Post by rhizome » Thu, Oct 31, 2013, 8:45 AM UTC

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Making repeated prototypes (in est, experiments ), quickly, is how you approach entrepreneurialism in any sort of scientific manner. Nothing needs to scale, or work at the edge-cases, until it has product-market fit; and you might need to write twelve or twenty or two-hundred different apps until you find one that works out that way. That's what makes these frameworks popular with HN: startup founders are not in the…

That's all true, but I'm also beginning to wonder how much you actually need those frameworks to build MVPs quickly. I used to do the bulk of my prototyping with Python + Django + JQuery + Postgres or AppEngine Datastore. Of late, I've switched a lot of it to just straight HTML + Javascript + a JSON feed from backends. If I need server-side computation, I'll build a quick Go or webapp2 app on AppEngine. I work just a…