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but why? if you paid for Apple hardware, OS X is ten times nicer than ubuntu.
That's a matter of opinion.
OS X has better support for its own hardware, like the trackpad. How can that be a matter of opinion?
My dad unexpectedly uses my Linux laptop to get real work done
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Re: My dad unexpectedly uses my Linux laptop to get real work done
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The only reason Linux is not more mainstream than Windows is because its not pre-installed on your computer when you buy. Even installing popular linux distros like Ubuntu from scratch on a new system is much easier than installing a Windows OS on a new system. I recently had this experience and I was stunned to see that for Windows I had to search and download vendor specific drivers for windows to even work with my…
Yeah, and the only reason WP is not more mainstream than Android/iOS is because it's not pre-installed on your Samsung Galaxy/iPhone when you buy.
Just because the examples look similar doesn't mean they are the same thing. For one, Android had a huge headstart before WP, the phone market itself is quite different from Desktop OS market, specifically compare to the time Windows cemented its dominance.
Other counter example includes iOS taking over BB and Nokia from behind, Android surpassing iOS (in terms of usage) coming from behind.
Mobile market and desktop market is not the same thing, so its a silly point to bring up.
Re: My dad unexpectedly uses my Linux laptop to get real work done
#343I think it is just a matter of conditioning and habit. I have been using linux on and off for the past 5-6 years, but using it exclusively in the past 2 years. I am a little uncomfortable on Windows 7 now, and I am totally lost on windows 8. The UI isn't user friendly for me any more. I'd take Unity, or even Gnome 3 any day.
Re: My dad unexpectedly uses my Linux laptop to get real work done
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That's what drives me craziest about programming in windows, the freak'n console is awful
That's what I never got about Windows and especially Windows devs. How can you get anything done with all that clicking and no unix tools?
To be fair, this is how people with tiling window managers feel about the rest. It's just another step further.
Re: My dad unexpectedly uses my Linux laptop to get real work done
#345I'm a Pro-linuxer and never have any Windows machines near my home. So this means, Ubuntu netbooks and laptops all around and my mom and sister is very familiar with Linux. They are using these easily. Once I found out my sister tried to install wine via source code :) She needed some windows software for some firmware update and all her research lead her to wine and source code install. The thing is she did not aske…
Lions can eat tofu if that is the only thing available to them. Should've given them a choice between Mac/Lin/Win.
They have been using Windows before hand.. At least my sister.
Re: My dad unexpectedly uses my Linux laptop to get real work done
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Bullshit. That's just your own very subjective opinion of UI preferences. I personally really don't care at all for the ridiculous glassy look of Aero in Windows 7; it's ugly to me. I think the biggest problem with Linux is that many people plainly prefer what they're used to. Additionally, if you're a so called Windows "power user" you have vested more knowledge in the Windows ecosystem - specialized knowledge that…
>Bullshit. That's just your own very subjective opinion of UI preferences. >I personally [...] You're rather rude there. I don't agree with what you said and I can say the same thing about your statement. I know plenty of people my age with Linux experience that don't use it as their primary OS precisely because of the UI. And no, they don't want to waste time on config files with a WM, they did that when they were 1…
I'm sorry I came across as rude. Your blanket statement about Windows and iPhone being prettier presented personal bias as fact, which annoyed me, so I called you on it.
Yes, you may not agree when I say Windows (7) looks butt ugly -- and that was my point. It's all quite subjective.
Linux has a big advantage, though, in that you can quite easily switch between different Desktop Environments and/or Window Managers. Configuring the look and feel of your desktop is just a lot easier. And config-file time wasting is entirely optional, I promise.
Re: My dad unexpectedly uses my Linux laptop to get real work done
#347Microsoft's desktop supremacy hasn't been down to "it's got a nice, easy to use interface" for at least 20 years. Rather, Microsoft is (or was, in the pre-post-PC world) everywhere because of (a) licensing stitch-ups with hardware vendors and (b) network externalities: get into Corporate IT departments with Office, then people will want (or need) to use the same OS at home, and then you can strong-arm hardware vendor…
"less than 10% of computing devices people use are desktops or laptops"
You're going to need a citation for this, I don't believe it to be remotely true.
Re: My dad unexpectedly uses my Linux laptop to get real work done
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That's a matter of opinion.
OS X has better support for its own hardware, like the trackpad. How can that be a matter of opinion?
That OS X has support for it's own hardware is fact. That OS X is better than Ubuntu is opinion.
It's also worth mentioning that Ubuntu has perfect support for the current Macbook Pro and Macbook Air, so I don't know what point you're even making by saying that OS X has hardware support for Macs.
Re: My dad unexpectedly uses my Linux laptop to get real work done
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This is the real reason. Excel. There is simply no replacement for it. If there was, the usage of Linux would double within days.
There are better things than Excel, Gnumeric for example. The main issue is that there is no drop in replacement for Excel. There are spreadsheets that do calculations, statistics, scripts, etc... better, but there aren't any that can perfectly replicate Excel and perfectly read XLSX files right now...
Are you sure Gnumeric is better than Excel?
Excel is really stupid fast. There are old stories of the Excel team at Microsoft being the most performance-obsessed group around. Excel really is a very great product. Can you demonstrate equivalent performance with Gnumeric?
Re: My dad unexpectedly uses my Linux laptop to get real work done
#350Nice -- just need to eliminate the "has to be Microsoft" mentality in the enterprise (our shop refuses open source anything since "there's no support model") and Linux can finally make in roads in the organization. But as they say - you don't get the big bucks for backing non-proven technology , ie., non-Microsoft solutions. SAD