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Email is always a bitch. Google's implementation of IMAP is a disaster as well. I have yet to find any email app on any platform that I can't swear at daily. I even tried to write my own before sanity returned.
I haven't had any issues with thunderbird.
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So your differing point of view means it's OK to malign us publicly? By "FUD" you surely meant to imply that we were trying to do something malicious, when, literally, all we're trying to do is make people's inboxes ever-so-slightly happier places. To be clear: - this is a really hard problem - we're iterating in public to get user feedback - we're not charging anything and don't have any immediate plans to - we spec…
dmbaggett, I apologise that you have taken my message this way, and it's true I have been influenced by the all-too-common tone on this site; but I stand by my original comment that this is a line to spread FUD, like any company who tries to make out that their product is so different to the competition. You have unique features I'm sure, a unique take on email - don't rubbish your competition by spreading what is de…
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In Settings > Mail, Contacts & Calendars, there's a section called ACCOUNTS. Click on all of them and turn "Mail" off. This way you'll still get everything else in Calendars, Contacts, et. al., but when Mail.app opens it will be empty.
The problem is that most (all?) mail apps other than the default Mail app on iOS do not properly spawn when you are in another app and choose the Send as Email option. I use the Gmail app for most of my mail and Mail for work Exchange. I've caught myself multiple times inadvertently trying to send a funny article using work email. Ugh.
We've had this capability on the desktop forever. There is not pro-consumer argument Apple could make for denying a setting that lets you change this.
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When I think of "most mail clients" I think of Outlook, Thunderbird and so on - I wouldn't term something that didn't support at least one of POP or IMAP an email client. Proprietary email client maybe, like AOL's built-in one...
So your differing point of view means it's OK to malign us publicly? By "FUD" you surely meant to imply that we were trying to do something malicious, when, literally, all we're trying to do is make people's inboxes ever-so-slightly happier places. To be clear: - this is a really hard problem - we're iterating in public to get user feedback - we're not charging anything and don't have any immediate plans to - we spec…
You publicly "malign" your competition in a way that several people in this thread feel is nearly libelous, then get huffy when someone calls you on it. I agree with his view: the conventional (i.e., in the average person's mind) "mail client" supports _any_ conventional "email provider" by definition.
I understand where you were coming from, but the statement itself was too broad, and now your reaction is digging a deeper hole. If a little blunt, I believe the original observation was meant as "feedback" that you claim to want. Nobody was talking about boycotting or ragequitting for a better forum, until you got defensive and refused to respond in a way that doesn't end in a personal insult against the commenter, or a general sneer at the community in general.
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He's referring to telemetry (logging). It's like an Apache log. Nothing to be uneasy about.
Server logs never expose identifiable information or any user-provided content.
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The QA failure most shocking to me lately is that on 10.8.5 on their newest MacBook Airs, Apple forgot some file necessary to use the video camera in 32 bit mode and therefore broke Skype. Microsoft, for all their faults, is notorious for having fantastic QA and not breaking old apps when they update Windows, and would never have let that happen. You'd think when you update the camera that you'd check such a popular…
> Microsoft, for all their faults, is notorious for having fantastic QA and not breaking old apps when they update Windows, and would never have let that happen. Windows 8.1 has had a number of severe problems.[1][2][3] [1] http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/2013/10/21/win-rt-81-pulle... [2] http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrymagid/2013/10/17/windows-8-... [3] Anecdotally, a coworker tried upgrading on two separate devi…
See the parts about backwards compatibility. I'll grant that Microsoft isn't as fanatical about backwards compatibility as they used to be.
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:( That's primarily a reaction to the dozens of mail startups that layer on top of GMail instead of supporting IMAP, POP, and SMTP etc. But obviously there's something on that page to offend anyone who tries hard enough to be offended.
When I think of "most mail clients" I think of Outlook, Thunderbird and so on - I wouldn't term something that didn't support at least one of POP or IMAP an email client. Proprietary email client maybe, like AOL's built-in one...
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Yes, I noticed that too. I assume this was a brain fart on the part of the OP---2^32 is definitely 4 billion, not 4 million. (Well, approximately.)
Yeah, sorry - late night. The 2^32 limit is something we've never seen hit by real software. (we do have a testing account with top-bit UIDs and MODSEQs set to make sure nothing is trying to do signed maths with them)
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In my head, Mail.app was written for Steve, who I imagine was a read-reply-delete kind of a guy, and not much else mattered.
Mail.app is an old NEXTSTEP app. It's probably one of the oldest apps on the platform, and it's always sucked. There was even a windows version for a while, which you could get if you bought NeXT's Enterprise Objects Framework for Windows NT.
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I'm super interested -- do you guys offer notifications/setting reminders on messages for later (like Mailbox.app)? I really need that, because I'm disorganized and forgetful and it saves my ass constantly.
Not yet, but it's on the roadmap. Snoozing emails and related features are obviously requirements these days. At this point we're mainly focusing on getting the core solid and performing well. Probably another few months on that; more new features will come in 2014.