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If you want to start a group for black boys, then do it.
Did you even read the comment? It's not about helping black people or women or Chinese people or men, it's about helping everyone.
Helping people is never wrong.
I wasn't thinking about race; now I am. I believe minority focused groups, such as this, perpetuate racial discrimination. Can't we all just be one big group of humans? Disagree with my viewpoint? Please comment before you downvote. I'm willing to rethink my views.
This thread isn't going to resolve anything on this "issue"; just look up affirmative action. There's the logic you provide, which is solid. The counterargument is that certain groups currently have a major disadvantage and specifically targeting them improves things, despite it excluding on race or other characteristics. In this case, it may be that "black girls" wouldn't feel comfortable or would be significantly o…
It's clear that the goals are extremely laudable -- to help a disadvantaged group gain experience. But this indeed asks the question, which as far as I can tell is completely unaddressed on their website: why create a group that excludes others by sex and race? How do they explain to a black 14-year-old that their group isn't going to help him ? Or a Hispanic 14-year-old girl? Or any 14-year-old whose parents are bel…
We can look at a silver lining and hope they expand into other demos, we will see i guess.
I wasn't thinking about race; now I am. I believe minority focused groups, such as this, perpetuate racial discrimination. Can't we all just be one big group of humans? Disagree with my viewpoint? Please comment before you downvote. I'm willing to rethink my views.
It's clear that the goals are extremely laudable -- to help a disadvantaged group gain experience. But this indeed asks the question, which as far as I can tell is completely unaddressed on their website: why create a group that excludes others by sex and race? How do they explain to a black 14-year-old that their group isn't going to help him ? Or a Hispanic 14-year-old girl? Or any 14-year-old whose parents are bel…
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Did you even read the comment? It's not about helping black people or women or Chinese people or men, it's about helping everyone.
Seems to me that it's about complaining when someone else starts groups to help people. Helping people is never wrong.
It's clear that the goals are extremely laudable -- to help a disadvantaged group gain experience. But this indeed asks the question, which as far as I can tell is completely unaddressed on their website: why create a group that excludes others by sex and race? How do they explain to a black 14-year-old that their group isn't going to help him ? Or a Hispanic 14-year-old girl? Or any 14-year-old whose parents are bel…
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Condescending maybe but GP has a point. If racism is already a big deal, ignoring it isn't going to help. Explicitly addressing it and helping out the less-privileged group will.
Doesn't really address the point at all. Maybe racism is best solved by treating all as equals instead of creating further insular groups? It does seem logically absurd on its face. The first step is to stop snarking at people who dare to ask.
It's clear that the goals are extremely laudable -- to help a disadvantaged group gain experience. But this indeed asks the question, which as far as I can tell is completely unaddressed on their website: why create a group that excludes others by sex and race? How do they explain to a black 14-year-old that their group isn't going to help him ? Or a Hispanic 14-year-old girl? Or any 14-year-old whose parents are bel…
This isn't just about helping a disadvantaged group, but also signalling to them at a young age that "people like you are also programmers!"
Growing up as a minority is something that is difficult to grasp unless you are part of that group -- something as simple as having fewer role models who look like you can impact your choices and decisions to pursue specific careers.
And no, they are not refusing to help males. I'm almost 100% sure that if a male asked if he could have some help learning to code, someone would either help him out or point him in a direction where he could get help. The group is just designed in a way to signal to young girls that they should join and learn how to program when pop culture ordinarily defaults to making scientists males (e.g. Big Bang Theory).
EDIT: Here's another question: is it wrong for a church to provide support groups for its members? Is that discriminating against other religions? Or is it just an effort to improve a specific community?