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Tsunami advisory in northern Japan after 7.1 magnitude earthquake off coast

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Re: Tsunami advisory in northern Japan after 7.1 magnitude earthquake off coast

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I got an email about this quake over an hour ago - here is the USGS link if anyone else is interested in setting up similar notifications[1]. You can set up customized magnitude ranges for customized parts of the globe, it's a pretty neat little service. Rule of thumb for context is 7.0+ happen about once a month and 8.0+ happen about once a year... I have it email me about every 7+ on the globe and I think every 3+…

Isn't the USGS planning to discontinue this service shortly?

Re: Tsunami advisory in northern Japan after 7.1 magnitude earthquake off coast

#32

It is interesting that before Fukushima the common knowledge was that any amount of radiation is bad and may cause health issues. We can see how after the Fukushima this morphed into a little radiation may actually mobilize your immune system to protect the body from radiation-related illnesses like cancer. Another thing is this - and I'm a right wing pig here if you'd like to call me that - USSR as bad as it was it…

Fukushima happened because of a natural disaster, 9.0 earthquake and a tsunami. Chernobyl happened because of poor engineering.

Re: Tsunami advisory in northern Japan after 7.1 magnitude earthquake off coast

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> It is interesting that before Fukushima the common knowledge was that any amount of radiation is bad and may cause health issues Well, the common knowledge is wrong . We are surrounded with background radiation every day. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Background_radiation

No, no, no. Don't give me that now. How came 100mSv/h used to be horrible and is just good for your health. Explain that.

Did you know that we, collectively, as a society, continue to gather new information and make new discoveries even to this day?

Re: Tsunami advisory in northern Japan after 7.1 magnitude earthquake off coast

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It is interesting that before Fukushima the common knowledge was that any amount of radiation is bad and may cause health issues. We can see how after the Fukushima this morphed into a little radiation may actually mobilize your immune system to protect the body from radiation-related illnesses like cancer. Another thing is this - and I'm a right wing pig here if you'd like to call me that - USSR as bad as it was it…

> USSR as bad as it was it took responsibility for the Charnobyl catastrophe. There was Army and the Government involvement on all levels to clear it up from day 0. In Japan years after the incident the Government is still finger pointing some CEO trying to operate that facility. To expand on this point, if Fukushima were Chernobyl and Japan the USSR, the Sarcophagus would have been completed on October 27th, of 2011…

Just a little curios do you know how many people died to put initial Sarcophagus in place? Official Soviet count is 31: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_due_to_the_Chernobyl_dis... . Amount of people Soviet's threw in action is so enormous that it is silly to think that Japan could have matched anything like that. Especially with more immediate concerns of people not having food and shelter after Tsunami.

Re: Tsunami advisory in northern Japan after 7.1 magnitude earthquake off coast

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post #34

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No, no, no. Don't give me that now. How came 100mSv/h used to be horrible and is just good for your health. Explain that.

Did you know that we, collectively, as a society, continue to gather new information and make new discoveries even to this day?

Just timing is politically too convenient to do it now: http://www.activistpost.com/2013/04/obama-approves-epas-high...

Re: Tsunami advisory in northern Japan after 7.1 magnitude earthquake off coast

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They lost about 300 first responders and exposed at least 100,000 reservists to very dangerous levels of radiation in the cleanup operation. Some of the video and stories of the cleanup are quite crazy. Source: I visited Chernobyl and Pripyat in April.

Do you think that these 300 saved lives of others because of what they did? Do you think it was necessary at that point just to - I'm sorry for putting it that way - sacrifice them ?

> Do you think that these 300 saved lives of others because of what they did?

No, I think it was overall a waste of human life. The situation could have been handled far better by putting out the fires immediately -- those were spewing toxic, radioactive smoke into the air. After that, however, instead of attempting a coverup, the first priority should have been evacuation. Once people were out of harm's way, there would be time for planning a safe, careful cleanup effort.

Because of the poor design, which lacked of secondary containment, some deaths in the initial firefighting might have been unavoidable, but the death toll was unnecessarily high, all for the sake of saving face and hoping that things could be covered up.

Re: Tsunami advisory in northern Japan after 7.1 magnitude earthquake off coast

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post #20

It is interesting that before Fukushima the common knowledge was that any amount of radiation is bad and may cause health issues. We can see how after the Fukushima this morphed into a little radiation may actually mobilize your immune system to protect the body from radiation-related illnesses like cancer. Another thing is this - and I'm a right wing pig here if you'd like to call me that - USSR as bad as it was it…

I've not seen any effect on the radiation debate from Fukushima. The people saying that small amounts of radiation are harmless or even beneficial were saying that long before Fukushima. The people who were saying any radiation is bad are still saying it.

What I'm getting from that is that the Japanese are saying "Our Japanese radiation is different, and this small amount won't harm you".

Re: Tsunami advisory in northern Japan after 7.1 magnitude earthquake off coast

#39

It is interesting that before Fukushima the common knowledge was that any amount of radiation is bad and may cause health issues. We can see how after the Fukushima this morphed into a little radiation may actually mobilize your immune system to protect the body from radiation-related illnesses like cancer. Another thing is this - and I'm a right wing pig here if you'd like to call me that - USSR as bad as it was it…

You have to raise the safety limit so contaminated food can be sold and exported.

Re: Tsunami advisory in northern Japan after 7.1 magnitude earthquake off coast

#40

I got an email about this quake over an hour ago - here is the USGS link if anyone else is interested in setting up similar notifications[1]. You can set up customized magnitude ranges for customized parts of the globe, it's a pretty neat little service. Rule of thumb for context is 7.0+ happen about once a month and 8.0+ happen about once a year... I have it email me about every 7+ on the globe and I think every 3+…

It's probably using the same service, but IFTTT has recipes for earthquake notifications.
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