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I lost years’ worth of Google Docs files because of a poor user interface

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Re: I lost years’ worth of Google Docs files because of a poor user interface

#11
He was unlucky and didn't think things through too much, especially when dealing with such imporant files, but I agree with him that the way it's implemented is silly. If you provide a program that syncs your documents, with the name of your files, to your local system, people expect these files to be your actual documents, not empty links. Every other online storage system works that way. If you move a file out of your skydrive or Dropbox sync folder you have the actual file, not an empty link.

Re: I lost years’ worth of Google Docs files because of a poor user interface

#12

File a FOIA request and get your data back from the NSA. Is this a thing?

Yes, but it's really not a great idea. It takes away resources that could be used to answer FOIA requests that might actually result in responsive documents.

Re: I lost years’ worth of Google Docs files because of a poor user interface

#13
I feel really, really sorry for OP. However, since Google closed my adsense account without any serious reason, I learned not to trust them, so I keep backups of every service I have with them.

I'd recommend anyone who uses Google Docs to download a zip file of their Drive weekly, and if possible, use some of the backup tools like [Insync].

Overall, I agree that the Google Drive interface is not totally clear about what the disk files represent.

[Insync]: https://www.insynchq.com/

Re: I lost years’ worth of Google Docs files because of a poor user interface

#16

Huh? If you remove the files from the copy of Google drive on your disk, they get removed on the web. It's one "drive." That's KIND OF THE WHOLE POINT. It's not poor user design. That they go to the trash is good user design, to prevent users from doings things like this guy did...

Yeah, I don't get this part. The user moved the files from google drive to his local disk. Aren't the files therefore still on his local disk?

EDIT: re read article . Moving files into local disk deletes them on google drive and makes the moved versions useless links. Now agree with the author: that's goddamned terrible.

EDIT 2: actually the files are always links, but if the links are moved outside google drive the correspondi go data is moved into Google drive trash. See jamesaguilar below. Still goddamned terrible.

Re: I lost years’ worth of Google Docs files because of a poor user interface

#17
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, if not clear to the users, then it isn't good UI -- even if it's obvious to you.

And most other people, I imagine. Dropbox would work the same way. Although it might be permanent, but I've never tried something so ridiculous.

I think you missed the part when the original document is not a document, but a link/reference. There's no analogue in Dropbox.

Re: I lost years’ worth of Google Docs files because of a poor user interface

#18
The "poor user interface" gave me a dialog window with a warning and two buttons:

An item you recently removed from your Google Drive folder has been moved to your trash on drive.google.com.

This item is just a link. If you empty your trash on drive.google.com, this item will be permanently deleted.

"Ok, move to trash" "Undo"

Re: I lost years’ worth of Google Docs files because of a poor user interface

#19
While I sympathize with the author (it must have hurt pretty bad if it made him go create an entire website dedicated to "google drive sucks") I thought it was quite obvious that files created on Google Drive with their document editor were not actually copied to your computer with the Google Drive program. It's easy to see when you try to open the file with Notepad or a similar local text editor. Additionally you get a warning when you move a file out of the Drive folder which you should always heed.

Not only that, but if it were the actual file on your local drive and not a link, there wouldn't be an option to "make this file available offline". There were cues which the author missed, but they were obviously not prominent enough which is a (the) design flaw.

Let this be a lesson that you should have multiple backups for anything important. I personally have 2 online backup systems and 3 local ones, the worth of which practice I learned the hard way like this author.

Also think twice before you empty the trash - you're manually making these files unrecoverable from the internet, and if your machine went up in smoke after you hit the button, you'd be screwed. That alone warrants serious consideration.

Re: I lost years’ worth of Google Docs files because of a poor user interface

#20
I get it, it sucks that this happened. But does that make Google Drive "suck"? The author himself states he has used it since the service started - that's what, 6 years? I agree that what happened was unfortunate, but it's a bit immature to go around badmouthing the entire product because of this. It's not like this happens everyday for every single user.
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