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Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Post by dham »

mattsfrey wrote: post #225
mladenkovacevic wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was dabbling with Hackintoshes a few years ago, updating the OS was not supported (regardless of your hardware) and there were a couple of other limitations. Have most major issues like that been sorted out?

Nope, I'm burning a new usb install for Mavericks as we speak lol, have to do a whole new install for a major upgrade like this.

Which I did/do for my Macbook Pro anyway. So when I got into the Hackintosh scene, it's second nature. I typically recommend formatting when upgrading anyway. Just doesn't feel right to just upgrade. Maybe it's just left over nightmares from when I was on Windows. Only way to upgrade was to format.

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Post by myko »

midgetjones wrote: post #117
Zenst wrote: post #101

The whole free OS which can only run upon hardware they have already sold you is reminding me of how IBM used to sell AIX and moved into giving it away free as it would only run upon hardware only they made and sold you. Question is though, what about support. You have a 3 year old Mac of some flavour and upgrade to this OS, what about issues you may have. ANother aspect would be that by in effect making this level o…

I think that it's most likely they want everyone on the latest OSX for the same reasons that it's good to have everyone on the latest iOS. Whatever they're planning, getting everyone on board is obviously an important part of that. I think the biggest thing over the last two keynotes is the iWork update - MS have been ridicuslously slow in the one area they could have won, which was bringing Office to iOS. I'm pretty…

Do you think MS is planning on bringing Office to iOS? I figure if they haven't by now, they wont at all.

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Post by danudey »

cenhyperion wrote: post #259
mturmon wrote: post #215

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"...the iWork update..." This seems to be really powerful. I've been surprised, during the last two demos of iWork, at the lack of oohs and aahs in the audience when things like (last time) the web-based editing, and (this time) the collaboration on live documents were demo'ed.

They don't get oohs and aahs because exactly the same thing has been possible via google docs for several years. It's impressive, yes, but not groundbreaking.

The quality of document you can get from Pages vs. Google Docs is night and day. Google Docs is a barebones office suite with an awful UI and live sync. iWork is a semi-professional ('prosumer?') home/school/office suite which now has synchronization as well.

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Post by lucasnemeth »

lukifer wrote: post #81
ville wrote: post #38

Free as in free beer, not as in free speech.

Just give it up, and call it "liberated software" or something. Language is defined by usage, and no one outside the FOSS community thinks that's what "free" means. (And while we're at it, the media is never, ever going to adopt the word "cracker" either.)

free fre·er, fre·est, adverb, verb, freed, free·ing. adjective 1. enjoying personal rights or liberty, as a person who is not in slavery: a land of free people. 2. pertaining to or reserved for those who enjoy personal liberty: They were thankful to be living on free soil. 3. existing under, characterized by, or possessing civil and political liberties that are, as a rule, constitutionally guaranteed by representative government: the free nations of the world. 4. enjoying political autonomy, as a people or country not under foreign rule; independent. 5. exempt from external authority, interference, restriction, etc., as a person or one's will, thought, choice, action, etc.; independent; unrestricted.

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Post by comex »

brymaster wrote: post #212
comex wrote: post #159

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They may work, but they don't work just as well.

Oh yes, you're right. They don't work just as well, they work better . AirParrot has additional features like sending only one specific application window to the ATV and control over quality. Beamer lets you seamlessly stream any kind of movie format you want and also gives control over subtitles. Both work all the way back on 10.6. I don't suppose you could give me any advantages of Apple-branded AirPlay Mirroring h…

The point of Quick Sync is to offload video encoding to specialized hardware, which reduces CPU usage. A quick Google search confirms that AirParrot uses a lot of CPU, which hurts the user experience. I won't opine on whether this is worth dropping the feature (and of course an application could be designed to use Quick Sync if available and fall back to the CPU otherwise; would be nice if OS X exposed this as a public API, although I think it's not hard to get at anyway), but there certainly is an advantage.

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Post by madeofpalk »

MattBearman wrote: post #187
tehwebguy wrote: post #175

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> Question is though, what about support. You have a 3 year old Mac of some flavour and upgrade to this OS, what about issues you may have. If you have an Apple store nearby you can walk in and get help. There is a limit to what they will do, my anecdotal experience is that most people with software issues get them fixed in a few minutes without going to repair. But if you don't you are SOL with a >3 year old product…

It's worth noting that if you're in the EU you get 2 years warrantee for free - http://www.apple.com/uk/legal/statutory-warranty/

Not just EU, many countries.

In Australia, it's two years from last service. Potentially, you could have a never-ending warranty if it's replaced every 2 years.

http://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/statutoryrights.html

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Post by Bud »

ctdonath wrote: post #114
anologwintermut wrote: post #8

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That argument usually applied to iOS an their practices about non easily user repairable hardware.

Planned obsolescence has been Apple's standard operating procedure since the beginning.

Whatever. Is that why I've used my desktop Macs for an average of about 8 years before replacing them, and same with the laptops, at which time, I sold them, still working, to others?

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Post by DustinCalim »

Zenst wrote: post #101

The whole free OS which can only run upon hardware they have already sold you is reminding me of how IBM used to sell AIX and moved into giving it away free as it would only run upon hardware only they made and sold you. Question is though, what about support. You have a 3 year old Mac of some flavour and upgrade to this OS, what about issues you may have. ANother aspect would be that by in effect making this level o…

> Question is though, what about support.

They sell you that too.

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Post by epmatsw »

avn2109 wrote: post #277
epmatsw wrote: post #244

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That's been the case for the last few releases. When Lion came out, a lot of major apps dropped support for Snow Leopard within a year. I stuck around on SL for a while because I preferred (and still prefer) the way that it handled Spaces, but I eventually didn't feel like I could keep missing out on updates just for that.

Seriously. Mission control was a major productivity drop down from spaces.

Yep. I was pretty dumbfounded by how much less functional it was in Lion. I basically went from using Spaces constantly to probably not having used it in the past 2 years. I ended up completely replacing it with a bunch of keyboard and gesture shortcuts in BetterTouchTool.
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