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Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Right. Apple event today. What on earth compelled Nokia to launch their new Windows-tablet on the same day?

Nokia announced their event first. Two ways to read Apple then targeting the same day - For the Apple Fanboy: Apple wasn't even aware Nokia was releasing anything, because honestly, it's windows mobile so who cares, and this is pure coincidence. For the Msft Fanboy: Apple releases a sad, incremental improvement in hardware that isn't their primary focus anymore in an attempt to keep the attention off of a rival.

Or Apple knew, but it didn't affect their timing at all. Apple only announces on Tuesdays, and there are only 5 Tuesdays in October - and we've known this announcement was coming this month for a very, very long time.

I sincerely doubt Apple gives one tiny hoot about Windows tablets when it comes to timing their announcements. A flagship Android tablet maybe.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not. All hardware has a planned lifecycle and it's just up to them to draw the line in the sand. They'll also do it through software updates by making less features available on the older model in order to compel you to upgrade to the newer. "AirPlay Mirroring" only available in Sandy Bridge or greater because of the usage of Intel QuickSync is an example of that. For any cocoa/obj-c dev that's dealt with consta…

> They'll also do it through software updates by making less features available on the older model in order to compel you to upgrade to the newer. "AirPlay Mirroring" only available in Sandy Bridge or greatest because of the usage of Intel QuickSync is an example of that. By your own admission that's not "in order to compel you to upgrade to the newer." That's because the newer hardware is required to make it work sa…

No, because third party alternatives like AirParrot or Beamer work just as well and without the hardware restriction.

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If you're too busy to read the whole article or watch the keynote, also note that you can upgrade directly from Snow Leopard or later. They listed the hardware models which will take it as well– the 2007 Mac Minis and MacBook Pros are supposedly good to go.

No luck for us 1st gen 2006 macbook users!

Sadly the first Core Duo's were 32 bit.

With that in mind, I can understand Apples motivation to move the whole line to 64 as soon as is possible.

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#126

Wasn't there a McCain-Feingold rule which made free upgrades illegal that entangled Apple in the past? Edit: Sarbanes-Oxley, not McCain-Feingold. I had forgotten.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6593993

> No. FASB changes revenue recognition principles in 2010 to allow this type of update.

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I love how it's free for the "first time ever"... ... except before... I think it was... System 7.5? All new OSes used to be free for Mac and Apple II.

10.1 was also free for 10.0 users, though mostly because 10.0 wasn't really finished (some would argue 10.1 was not either)

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#128

Some would say that Mavericks was launched for free because Windows 8.1 did the same. Those same people might also say that Apple did one better by offering the update for computers running older than the most recent version of their software.

Apple still makes money selling the computers that are running free OS X Mavericks. Microsoft makes no money by giving away Windows 8.1 for free to consumers.

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I own a 2008 15" MBP. I didn't want to upgrade from Snow Leopard - there seemed to be a synergy between SL and my hardware. Even for free, I'm weary of upgrading my OS. Too scared to take a performance hit.

Recent releases of OS X, and probably this latest one too, have focused a lot on actually improving the efficiency of the OS. Can't know for sure w/o trying it, but I'd expect to get a performance improvement from the upgrade.

Initial reports from the GM tell of many improvements, especially the memory subsystem which aside from the possibly gimmicky memory compression finally stopped sucking and swapping for no reason because it couldn't handle its own caches correctly. Users on even high-RAM configurations (16~32GB) which would still end up swapping in previous versions due to memleaks and memory mismanagement report 0 swapping.
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