Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

blogs.barrons.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

91–100 of 369 posts

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#91

Post by jbigelow76 »

josteink wrote: post #19

Right. Apple event today. What on earth compelled Nokia to launch their new Windows-tablet on the same day?

Nokia announced their event first. Two ways to read Apple then targeting the same day -

For the Apple Fanboy: Apple wasn't even aware Nokia was releasing anything, because honestly, it's windows mobile so who cares, and this is pure coincidence.

For the Msft Fanboy: Apple releases a sad, incremental improvement in hardware that isn't their primary focus anymore in an attempt to keep the attention off of a rival.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#92

Post by badman_ting »

arrrg wrote: post #4
ics wrote: post #3

If you're too busy to read the whole article or watch the keynote, also note that you can upgrade directly from Snow Leopard or later. They listed the hardware models which will take it as well– the 2007 Mac Minis and MacBook Pros are supposedly good to go.

Apple is all about that planned obsolescence, right!

Also, their OS upgrades are more expensive than everyone else's because their customers are idiot sheep easily fooled by flashy marketing. That's why this is so expensive.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#93

Post by Karunamon »

revelation wrote: post #79
minikites wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a giant difference between "not officially supported" and "a cryptography chip locks you out".

I guess you should take a look at what installing a hackintosh system entails. It starts with flashing your BIOS and it doesn't get any better afterwards.

You're either running a massively unsupported configuration (even for hackintosh standards) or just plain trolling. I'm posting this from a hackintosh I triboot with Windows and Debian. The difficulty involved reading a HCL when I built the system 3 years ago. The installation involved burning a disc and booting from it.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#94

Post by wtallis »

qwerty_asdf wrote: post #83
pat2man wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a few tools that will do this for you, basically copying the hidden restore partition onto a USB stick. Bootable DVD though? Really?

> Bootable DVD though? Really? In light of recent events involving the NSA and leaked documents, yes. A bootable DVD. Really. For some heavy-duty discussion on the withertos and wherefores, take a quick gander at a recent thread, over here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6532642 Remember that part where GCHQ stormed the offices of The Guardian, and took an angle grinder to one of their laptops? http://www.thegu…

Still, why not just use a USB drive? DVDs are painfully slow compared to flash drives.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#95

Post by untog »

btian wrote: post #71
jared314 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While they may be good to go, I still like waiting a week to upgrade apple products. They do occasionally break things important to my workflow. The last one for me was VirtualBox support along with the Xcode commandline tools. While workarounds and patches appear fairly quickly, it is prudent not to put myself out of action, potentially for days or weeks, if I can avoid it.

It's always a good idea to create a smaller partition and install the new OS. Make sure that everything is working, then upgrade the main partition.

Or just wait for someone else to try it. I'm not sure what anyone ever loses by waiting a week or so.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#96

Post by pimento »

josteink wrote: post #59
foogered wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel the need to point out that you can run Mac OS X on pretty much any recent Intel processor and a wide range of motherboards. It is not locked to Apple hardware.

Have you seen the docs for what it takes to get that running? Have you seen the docs for what it takes to complete a normal "update"? Trying to run OS X on non-Apple hardware makes the old days of "cumbersome" Linux-systems look like kindergarten-stuff. I'd hardly say it just runs.

Have you read the updated docs? Oh, you didn't get the memo. Oh, the memo is stuck in 1999. Oh.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#97

Post by dilap »

chm wrote: post #20

I own a 2008 15" MBP. I didn't want to upgrade from Snow Leopard - there seemed to be a synergy between SL and my hardware. Even for free, I'm weary of upgrading my OS. Too scared to take a performance hit.

Recent releases of OS X, and probably this latest one too, have focused a lot on actually improving the efficiency of the OS. Can't know for sure w/o trying it, but I'd expect to get a performance improvement from the upgrade.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#98

Post by alexeisadeski3 »

corresation wrote: post #61
uptown wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Very interested to see if Microsoft will follow suit." And what? Make it up in volume? Unless Microsoft's Surface sales take-off, they can't afford to give Windows away for free apart from what are essentially service-packs like the 8.1 update they just released.

And what? Make it up in volume? Just chiming in conversationally (not refuting anything), but Windows original ascension was entirely based on piracy -- Microsoft did nothing to stop home users from thieving Windows as it lubricated its use for business (and business could much more easily be convinced to spend, if not at the outset, once the infrastructure was in place and they suddenly worried about a disgruntled e…

MS could make upgrades free whilst still charging OEMs and home builders.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#99

Post by TillE »

uptown wrote: post #26
smaili wrote: post #18

This is very significant because it has signaled a shift from a time where Operating Systems was once a major revenue stream. Very interested to see if Microsoft will follow suit.

"Very interested to see if Microsoft will follow suit." And what? Make it up in volume? Unless Microsoft's Surface sales take-off, they can't afford to give Windows away for free apart from what are essentially service-packs like the 8.1 update they just released.

I expect they could offer free upgrades for the consumer edition of the OS without any significant hit. The bulk of their revenues are surely from OEMs and businesses, not home users buying a boxed copy.
Post reply on HN