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Want people to trust you? Try apologising for the rain

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Re: Want people to trust you? Try apologising for the rain

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I wouldn't even classify "sorry for the rain" as an apology. I'd understand it as "I understand you have just suffered an inconvenience, and I express my sad feeling about that fact, thus showing that your feelings have an importance for me and you possess a status of an important person in my eyes". That is not the same as taking responsibility for the fact that it rains, which apology presumes. English is not my na…

It's a non-apology - - http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-apology_apology

Re: Want people to trust you? Try apologising for the rain

#92
The experiment seems a little flawed. At the very least I would have expected a third run with a chitchat sentence first (my working hypothesis would be that chitchat sentence and apology for rain would be equally trustworthy, both more than straight up asking).

There's quite a difference between directly asking to use someone's phone and introducing yourself first.

The copier queue gets mentioned at the end but the article reads more like "apologize for something that you cannot control=trust" while I'd suspect it's really "talk about something else=trust"

Re: Want people to trust you? Try apologising for the rain

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Reminds me of the Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality quote: "Of course it was my fault. There's no one else here who could be responsible for anything." Which is to say, if I hear someone apologizing for the weather, one likely presumption would be that they're just assuming fault as a matter of etiquette, or some latent self-hating tendency... but another, more interesting, possibility is that they're apolo…

I want to bring health and wellness to the world. I'm working my way towards that. It's pretty ambitious. Learning how to not always feel the weight on my shoulders and chest though.

YMMV but realising that you can't possibly do it alone is one good step. Then getting a good team around you to work on it together. Finally, don't look at the top of the mountain all the time, look behind you and see all the good things you have achieved. Check where the top of the mountain is occasionally to make sure you don't stray from the chosen path. But if you keep staring at it you'll never get there.

Re: Want people to trust you? Try apologising for the rain

#94
post #20

I find it weird when they use percentages for groups that are smaller than 100. 9% of a group of 32 people makes it feel like 2 people and a torso handed over their phone without the rain apology. (I'm aware this is my poor math skill, and it's something I'm working on.) I don't know if the sub has been edited, but it mentions lack of controls: > How trustworthy are these results? The accumulated findings from severa…

You know, I've never been able to convince myself that the quantization error is correctly taken into account by standard statistical error bars / power of study.

Re: Want people to trust you? Try apologising for the rain

#95
This completely ignores the fact that the word "Sorry" is not always an apology.

"Sorry your dog died." is an expression of _sympathy_ for your dog's death, not an admission of guilt.

In fact, the first definition on Google for "define sorry" is "feeling sad or distressed through sympathy with someone else's misfortune"

And yes, I'd be more likely to lend my phone to someone who had shown signs of sympathy to me first.

Re: Want people to trust you? Try apologising for the rain

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me that's the most irritating feature of hpmor's protagonist. I understand that's probably intentional - so it's working. I wouldn't really trust more a person that claims exclusive agency - I'd probably trust him much less as if he doesn't respect me enough to assign me agency - how can I be sure he respects me enough to not violate my trust? You don't feel to bad if you make a promise to an NPC character in a v…

I think it's not so much that HPMoR!Harry claims exclusive agency, as that the plot has railroaded him away from any of the setting's other agent-y characters (or, at least, agent-y characters with compatible-enough-to-engage-in-trade utility functions; HPMoR!Quirrelmort is more of an agent-y Other-Optimizer.) HPMoR!Lucius Malfoy is pretty agent-y, for example, but Harry doesn't get to talk to him much. When he did i…

Are those UUCP paths in your comment?

Re: Want people to trust you? Try apologising for the rain

#98
"Forty-seven per cent of strangers offered their phone when the actor apologised for the rain first, compared with just nine per cent when there was no apology."

UK: I have never seen anyone ask to borrow someone else's mobile phone over here. Is that a common behaviour in the US?

I have to say that if someone asked to borrow mine, I'd refuse, especially if they said something inane first. That could just be my crabbed and ungenerous nature but I think not somehow...

Re: Want people to trust you? Try apologising for the rain

#100
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's not so much that HPMoR!Harry claims exclusive agency, as that the plot has railroaded him away from any of the setting's other agent-y characters (or, at least, agent-y characters with compatible-enough-to-engage-in-trade utility functions; HPMoR!Quirrelmort is more of an agent-y Other-Optimizer.) HPMoR!Lucius Malfoy is pretty agent-y, for example, but Harry doesn't get to talk to him much. When he did i…

Are those UUCP paths in your comment?

That kind of notation is often used while discussing various fan fictions to avoid confusion when people are talking about 'canon' version of character and 'modified'. So it's common to just always prepend which version you're talking about, so HPMOR!Harry/canon!Harry/other-fan-fic!Voldemort etc. etc.
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