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Re: Visual Studio 2013 released to web

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Post by pionar »

scrabble wrote: post #6
kossmoboleat wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VS 2008 here, somebody apparently tested 2012 but nothing came out of it with people fearing that a different C++ compiler will break everything...

I think the improvements we'd get in Entity Framework performance, testing, and analysis would be well worth it.

> I think the improvements we'd get in Entity Framework performance

Technically, that's not a VS2012 or 2013 feature, that comes from .NET 4.5, which you can use with VS 2010.

However, the testing and analysis is well worth it. I don't know what your source control is, but paired with TFS 2012, it's a pretty large productivity improvement for my team over VS 2010 (as large as you can get from an IDE upgrade).

Re: Visual Studio 2013 released to web

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Post by Pxtl »

VS2012 took out installer projects (instead telling you to just use InstallShield), SQLCLR projects, was incompatible with Oleg Sych's T4 Toolbox plug-in, and had a colour-scheme in the TFS source browser that made my eyes want to bleed.

Every other VS upgrade has been comparatively painless. I can't say I'm excited to try VS2013.

Re: Visual Studio 2013 released to web

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Post by chillitom »

kossmoboleat wrote: post #3
scrabble wrote: post #2

I'm still using VS 2010 at work. Can't seem to make a compelling case to upgrade for the cost, and it's just getting more frustrating. VS 2013 is looking like a really great product, especially in comparison to VS 2010.

VS 2008 here, somebody apparently tested 2012 but nothing came out of it with people fearing that a different C++ compiler will break everything...

Man! If you're doing C++ then you definitely want to get onto 2012/2013 ASAP, the improvements in tooling are amazing. "Navigate to.." alone is worth it.

Re: Visual Studio 2013 released to web

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Post by barrkel »

[deleted] wrote: post #5

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Why is go language slower than asp.net mvc? http://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r6&hw=wi...

Microbenchmarks like these don't usually teach you a whole lot, other than how far someone went to implement the benchmark, and how close the benchmark is to the designed application of the libraries used in the implementation.

Re: Visual Studio 2013 released to web

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Post by daigoba66 »

Pxtl wrote: post #12

VS2012 took out installer projects (instead telling you to just use InstallShield), SQLCLR projects, was incompatible with Oleg Sych's T4 Toolbox plug-in, and had a colour-scheme in the TFS source browser that made my eyes want to bleed. Every other VS upgrade has been comparatively painless. I can't say I'm excited to try VS2013.

For installers, use http://wixtoolset.org/.

Re: Visual Studio 2013 released to web

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Post by duiker101 »

Pxtl wrote: post #12

VS2012 took out installer projects (instead telling you to just use InstallShield), SQLCLR projects, was incompatible with Oleg Sych's T4 Toolbox plug-in, and had a colour-scheme in the TFS source browser that made my eyes want to bleed. Every other VS upgrade has been comparatively painless. I can't say I'm excited to try VS2013.

I think the problem here is that VS needs to satisfy the needs of many different types of developers and also try to appeal each ones personal preferences.

Personally I am enjoying VS2012 a lot and it is really sad that there are hardly other IDEs this good.

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