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Japan Going to 10 Gigabit/s symmetrical internet access starting 2010

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Re: Japan Going to 10 Gigabit/s symmetrical internet access starting 2010

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Post by s3graham »

DenisM wrote: post #9
wmf wrote: post #4

How do people in Japan use their current 1 Gbps connections today? Are the ISPs making money or are they in some kind of government-subsidized fiber bubble? 1 Gbps is faster than a hard disk and 10 Gbps is faster than an SSD; this could change app design.

And it will. I signed up for the speedier FIOS (20/20) just so that future comes to my house a little quicker than others. This should give me a better shot at inventing the next bandwidth hog like YouTube. Right now I'm thinking if it's worth it to buy a home server or just put everything into S3/JungleDisk. We're not quite there yet, but it's getting awfully close. EDIT: read here on the emerging application paradi…

Thanks for that link. Nothing really new, but really well crystalized and named.

I can't get more than 25/2 here. :(

Re: Japan Going to 10 Gigabit/s symmetrical internet access starting 2010

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Post by vicaya »

dflock wrote: post #16

Are there any HN'ers (patio?) who live in Japan and could shed some light on what you actually use all this bandwidth for, if you do? Is the current situation really as it's painted? I'm in the UK and I current have a (fairly flakey) 24Mbps ADSL2+ connection and I can see running everything like TV, radio, music, voice, etc via this connection. I would do this more if it was more reliable - and I already download a l…

The "symmetrical" is the killer part. It makes peer to peer backup of large files (HD videos) bearable.

Re: Japan Going to 10 Gigabit/s symmetrical internet access starting 2010

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Post by billswift »

sachinag wrote: post #19
alexgartrell wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well let's not just blame them for this. Also blame them for the disgusting state of our cell phones!

Again, that's the government's fault for not setting communication protocol standards. Free markets != absence of regulation w/r/t public airwaves. Of course, it could be worse. We (the U.S.) could be Canada.

Setting standards too early can be worse. I remember reading that some countries set an analog HDTV standard in the 90s and ended up changing over again to digital at great public expense.

Also France's Minitel fiasco in the 80s and 90s.

Re: Japan Going to 10 Gigabit/s symmetrical internet access starting 2010

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Post by billswift »

just_the_tip wrote: post #13
TweedHeads wrote: post #2

Meantime, we suck... Thanks to BigTelcos

I think it has to do more with policy than it does with the telcos. Japan, Korea, and Sweden are outliers which have had massive funding (direct and indirect) from the governments to build up their broadband infrastructures. The hands-off, let the market decide, strategy of the previous Republican administration has led to the largest commercial fiber deployment in the world (FiOS), but it isn't as far-reaching or sp…

Don't forget that local area monopolies on cable haven't helped any either.

Re: Japan Going to 10 Gigabit/s symmetrical internet access starting 2010

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Post by DenisM »

s3graham wrote: post #21
DenisM wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it will. I signed up for the speedier FIOS (20/20) just so that future comes to my house a little quicker than others. This should give me a better shot at inventing the next bandwidth hog like YouTube. Right now I'm thinking if it's worth it to buy a home server or just put everything into S3/JungleDisk. We're not quite there yet, but it's getting awfully close. EDIT: read here on the emerging application paradi…

Thanks for that link. Nothing really new, but really well crystalized and named. I can't get more than 25/2 here. :(

Michael's works are remarkable. Many things he writes about seem obvious in retrospect, yet I find myself thinking differently after reading his wording.

It's also awkward talking to people who haven't read him as I end up coming from different perspective and grasping for common references. Hence why I plug him everywhere I can. :-)

Re: Japan Going to 10 Gigabit/s symmetrical internet access starting 2010

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Post by wmf »

sachinag wrote: post #19
alexgartrell wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well let's not just blame them for this. Also blame them for the disgusting state of our cell phones!

Again, that's the government's fault for not setting communication protocol standards. Free markets != absence of regulation w/r/t public airwaves. Of course, it could be worse. We (the U.S.) could be Canada.

Even if the US had mandated GSM I think we'd still have the same locked, crippled phones and such from the carriers.
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