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woosh back at ya buddy. He says he's genuinely concerned for my welfare, but he's concerned about me being trafficked or had my organs harvested? Either he's unbelievably insincere, and a bit of a prick; or he's deadly seriously and a bit of a fool. He hasn't really given himself much middle ground there.
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You're trying to blame the victim, which is troublingly common when someone has been raped or sexually harassed but it is never the right response. It is traumatising when these things happen, it is personally demeaning and it is never acceptable. Justine is brave for coming forward and we should encourage everyone in a similar situation to do the same and support them when they do. The deeper cultural problem here i…
I don't see how you can interpret my post as blaming the victim. I'm blaming society for the extreme damage the crime has done to her and I propose ways to mitigate some of the damage. I'm not addressing the perpetrator at all, because he's obviously guilty of a crime. That doesn't change anything about the fact that we can mitigate the results of the crime.
The solution isn't to make society believe that it's not a big deal, and that people are expected to make a timely recovery. I feel like this would lead to even more victim blaming and even more self hatred for those who don't meet the societal expectations of quick recovery. The proper message isn't "you should get over it quickly", but instead "you CAN get your life back"... and unless I'm mistaken, I believe this is what people helping those with rape try to teach the victims to believe.
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> And why didn't she punch the aggressor? She was in shock. > Saying "no" isn't enough to claim she resisted. Why does it matter if she resisted? Is it not rape if you don't resist?
> Is it not rape if you don't resist? It's not rape if the other person has no way of telling that you want them to stop.
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I disagree So you believe that if you do a body shot of off someone, you then have permission to sexually assault them? Wow..
People in this world do just grab peoples asses, kiss them, etc. all the time without explicit consent. Even without doing body shots.
I see this in movies all the time. Now you guys are telling me its sexual assault.
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I disagree So you believe that if you do a body shot of off someone, you then have permission to sexually assault them? Wow..
People in this world do just grab peoples asses, kiss them, etc. all the time without explicit consent. Even without doing body shots.
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While true, keep in mind that Hulk Hogan was billed at 302lbs. There are potentially healthy body configurations at that weight, but not many.
I tried to demonstrate ridiculousness of off-topic ad-hominem attack of posts author by providing more off-topic.
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People react differently to difficult events. Some children who are abused recover quickly. Others are messed up for many many years. We agree so far. But so what? Are you suggesting that she is wrong to feel so distraught? Or that society is doing something to encourage her to feel this distraught? Because from I read I see a lot of society blaming her for what happened and telling her to get over it.
But so what? Are you suggesting that she is wrong to feel so distraught? Or that society is doing something to encourage her to feel this distraught? Because from I read I see a lot of society blaming her for what happened and telling her to get over it. I agree. I can't believe some of the comments. The top rated post at the moment is from someone who feels sympathy with the abuser and who believes it was the fault…
I avoided that part of the post, but a DUI is something you bring on yourself and not something I can easily forgive. People driving drunk kill people. You don't get to say, "Yes I could have murdered people but don't you see I was distraught". "Oh, ok, it's fine then"
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People in this world do just grab peoples asses, kiss them, etc. all the time without explicit consent. Even without doing body shots.
We call this "rape culture."
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I'll oblige you with a response. This wasn't just "any contact". Did you read where he jammed his tongue down her throat? Did you read where he groped her ass? Did you read the part about penetrating her with his finger? Quit trying to frame this as just "any contact" because it wasn't.
Without wading into this pointless debate, the fact that this part of the story was in the shape of bullet points does not help lift the ambiguity... The bullet points seem to cover several minutes at least, if not a good half hour or longer. At all times she could have said "please stop now". Did she? Perhaps she did. We don't know, though. At one point she expressed surprise that her boss would do this even though…
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I'm not missing the point of pearjuice' argument. In each of his/her posts, he shifts the blame from the perpetrator (Joe) to the victim (Justine) and follows up by taking it to some weird extremes "So what women need to start doing is carrying guns? If a man starts touching you without your consent you shoot them, simple, right?" and using Wikipedia to define body shots and erogenous zones. You do it in your post wi…