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Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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Post by tomlu »

stinos wrote: post #149
V-2 wrote: post #62

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Collections in Java are awful. Guava helps a bit, but it's still poor man's substitute. No LINQ, no lambdas (and the upcoming Java streams API is ugly as well), no delegates, no events. Verbosity. C# is a very nice language, only WPF sucks big time.

Used WPF a couple of times, not that bad at all? What exactly do you think can be improved? Are there alternatives to it?

Here are two things:

* It can be really clumsy to get programmatic hold of anonymous controls like buttons inside of list items

* Styling is clumsy

Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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Post by rbanffy »

sjwright wrote: post #150
rbanffy wrote: post #111

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When I used it, in 1998, it was so ridiculously unstable we had to write a service to restart it when connections started to pile up on IIS. Under heavy loads, the server had to restart every minute or so.

It wasn't great, but it's not like there were many good alternatives in 1998...

PHP was decent at the time, as was ASP on Windows. Both were much more stable and allowed a lot of flexibility in programming logic than Cold Fusion. In 1998, I've used all three (along with a couple others that didn't afford me the same level of productivity (Oracle Web Server, I'm looking at you).

Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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Post by jamon51 »

skrebbel wrote: post #216
swalsh wrote: post #80

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If C# wasn't made by Microsoft, but had a similar toolset and feature set, i would offer the opinion that it would be the top managed language.

I don't understand that attitude. First, you can use C# really well without depending on any Microsoft tech. Second, Microsoft standardized the language and made a community promise not to enforce their C#-related patents (like e.g. Oracle did against Google for Java). So, it free, it has full FOSS tooling. What's the problem?

The word "Microsoft" tends to evoke emotion, highly irrational in many cases, despite any actual facts present.

With that said, I know a lot of devs who hate almost everything about MS that actually do like C#.

Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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Post by howeman »

rbanffy wrote: post #105
tmikaeld wrote: post #17

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It's quite silly asking such a subjective question, but aren't most polls just that, subjective?

Human experience is subjective. It makes no sense to make an objective poll.

Sampling bias and memory issues aside, you can make an objective poll. "Have you ever eaten oatmeal?"

Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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Post by niuzeta »

skrebbel wrote: post #216
swalsh wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If C# wasn't made by Microsoft, but had a similar toolset and feature set, i would offer the opinion that it would be the top managed language.

I don't understand that attitude. First, you can use C# really well without depending on any Microsoft tech. Second, Microsoft standardized the language and made a community promise not to enforce their C#-related patents (like e.g. Oracle did against Google for Java). So, it free, it has full FOSS tooling. What's the problem?

the nuanced microsoft brand

Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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Post by enneff »

pertinhower wrote: post #230

Polls like these are amusing but they're not particularly helpful. They broadcast subjective feelings about the "coolness" of languages at the expense of objective evaluation of languages. How many of you upvoted "Go" even though you've never really tried Go, just because you feel like it has got zeitgeist and pizzazz and you're attracted to trying Go? Did you downvote Visual Basic? Have you ever used it? If not, you…

You're just propagating your own baseless impressions of how things are.

Personally, I voted only on languages that I've used. And yes I voted Go up and VB down. But I'm just an outlier right?

The poll is what it is.

Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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Post by orclev »

bane wrote: post #160

Curious about all the Go dislikes. From the kind of things that get posted here I'd have assumed it to be almost universally liked. Anybody can provide reasons?

I've not been impressed with Go. The type system is painful and weak, and some of the choices with the way packaging are performed seem poorly thought out. It's not a terrible language, but I don't think it's a good language either. Rust on the other hand, now that has some potential as a systems language.

Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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Post by joeblau »

jashkenas wrote: post #121
joeblau wrote: post #5

What is it about CoffeeScript that people don't like?

Most of the time, it's easy to ignore programming languages that you aren't familiar with. In day to day programming life, you're not going to be running into many examples of Eiffel, or Dylan, or D or E, in the wild. So you're not going to feel very strongly about them, either pro or con. For better or for worse (I think for the better), CoffeeScript is fully interoperable with JavaScript. The runtime characteristic…

Ah okay, that's a pretty interesting review. I was at an AirBnB Tech Talk and Isaac Schluetter (Head maintainer of Node.js) and he discussed his feelings on it. I've used it a few times and it's been fine, but I never felt compelled to learn it.

[1] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM-gUM9C5SA&feature=player_de...

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