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I emailed the CEO of T-Mobile and he killed my contract

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Re: I emailed the CEO of T-Mobile and he killed my contract

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it's pretty funny that 90%+ of "contracts" in the US mobile phone marketplace are things the buyer would be much happier not to have.

I'm sure for 100% of mortgages people would love to just make a down payment and get the deed and not have to make any other payments for 15+ years but there's nothing ironic about the need to fulfill contractual obligations that aren't awesome for you.

I think the meaning was that most Americans resent that they are basically forced into a contract in order to get the plan and device they want. I would rather bring my own device, but the only carrier available to me (until recently) was Verizon, and they won't let me do that. So I (at one time) signed a contract, but I would have been happier to simply pay for the device of my choice and paid for service month-to-month.

To extend this to your analogy, I was forced to take out a mortgage despite having the cash to buy the whole house outright because the person selling the house wouldn't take cash.

Re: I emailed the CEO of T-Mobile and he killed my contract

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it's pretty funny that 90%+ of "contracts" in the US mobile phone marketplace are things the buyer would be much happier not to have.

I'm sure for 100% of mortgages people would love to just make a down payment and get the deed and not have to make any other payments for 15+ years but there's nothing ironic about the need to fulfill contractual obligations that aren't awesome for you.

The difference is that if you show up with cash you can still buy the house. You can pick your own bank, too.

If two people owned all of the houses in your city and colluded on pricing, types of houses available and only did business with their bank — then your comparison would be true.

Re: I emailed the CEO of T-Mobile and he killed my contract

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It's terrible customer service.

The CEO should not have to get involved. Status as a journalist should not be required. The first doesn't scale, and the second, if true, is hopelessly corrupt.

Every customer support supervisor ought to be able to make an exception based on reasonable circumstances.

The article should have ended with "and anyone else in my situation, or a similar one, should contact T-Mobile customer support. If the first line worker can't help you, they should be able to put you through to a supervisor who can, based on the policy changes that T-Mobile has implemented."

Anything less at best means a flood of emails in the CEO inbox, and at worst continued customer dissatisfaction.

Re: I emailed the CEO of T-Mobile and he killed my contract

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The title seemed negative to me (I thought he complained and the CEO said "we're done with you!"). But really, the T-Mobile CEO was helping -- the author wanted out of his contract (well, out of the $200 fee). (EDIT: The original title was "I emailed the CEO of T-Mobile and he killed my contract, no joke")

The title did seem negative, and I was surprised to find that someone actually had a positive experience with T-Mobile.

I was a T-Mobile customer off and on for about 7 years total. For the last contract I had signed with them, I made sure that I would be able to get out of my contract if I A: moved due to a military PCS, or B: Moved due to getting out of the military. The T-Mobile rep at the store assured me that I would be able to get out of my contract under those circumstances, and so I signed up with them when I arrived at my last duty station.

When I left the military, and moved shortly after, I contacted a very helpful T-Mobile rep that told me everything was in order and that all I had to do was send him a copy of my discharge paperwork (which are still considered to be valid active duty military orders) and the early termination fees would be waived. After he cancelled my account, I received a ~$700 bill and a letter that said my paperwork had been declined.

I called and talked to a support rep, who in turn forwarded me to a manager that had no more authority than the representative. T-Mobile purposely creates powerless management positions in order to delude customers into thinking that there is nothing supervisors can do to handle customer service issues. Ultimately, they decided to continue to charge me the ETFs because they were already having a really bad year for customer retention.

The really ridiculous part of this mess is that I was perfectly happy with T-Mobile, yet I was forced to move to a state that doesn't have a single T-Mobile tower because I didn't have any luck finding employment elsewhere. I would have returned to T-Mobile as soon as possible, but my experience with their customer service has opened my eyes to what a shitty company it is.

Re: I emailed the CEO of T-Mobile and he killed my contract

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If he didn't have one already, Legere is certainly going to need an assistant to triage his personal email now.

He's the CEO of TMobile. I guarantee he has an EA working that already.

Indeed. In which case giving out his own email address is just a convenient way of filtering out a a certain type of customer service request, while also being good PR.

He'd want a way to get important emails quickly without the EA having to manually screen them; I wonder if he uses a separate address, a whitelist, a tag (ie johnlegere+internal@tmobile.com), or a keyword in the subject. Guessing whitelist.

Re: I emailed the CEO of T-Mobile and he killed my contract

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it's pretty funny that 90%+ of "contracts" in the US mobile phone marketplace are things the buyer would be much happier not to have.

I'm sure for 100% of mortgages people would love to just make a down payment and get the deed and not have to make any other payments for 15+ years but there's nothing ironic about the need to fulfill contractual obligations that aren't awesome for you.

This is true, but mobile contracts are much murkier than mortgages, and this is by design of the phone companies.

Consider how much different things would be if people had month-to-month service contracts and they financed their phone upgrades separately (though the payments were rolled together). Imagine if people could just pay off their device debt, cancel their contract, and move to a new carrier. Or imagine if people could pay off their device debt in advance to avoid the interest payments. Or imagine if people could roll their old device debt into a new loan for a new device, and then carry that forward. It's funny how a phone company will give you $500 in financing for a new phone no problem but they outright refuse to give you $550 or $600.

I imagine most consumers would probably prefer a more transparent system like this, but the problem is that then they would see how much they are getting shafted. People are locking themselves in to $2k commitments when in reality they should only be committed to $500. Sure there's also service attached but a lot of people don't use a lot of cell data or make many phone calls. Most people could probably get buy on the cheapest virgin mobile plan, for example, which is just $35/mo.

So let's do the math. People who are locked into phone contracts due to their device upgrades are locked into about $1150 of extra payments. That works out to an effective APR right around 99.8%!

It's no wonder that phone companies like things the way they are, confusing and complicated. It allows them to charge usurious interest rates on device purchases without their customers fully realizing.

Re: I emailed the CEO of T-Mobile and he killed my contract

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Agreed, this title makes it sound like the CEO flipped out.

Sometimes CEOs ( or Managing Directors ) do 'sack' customers. The MD of my ISP did so, a few years back: http://revk.www.me.uk/2009/11/being-rude-to-customer.html Quote: "so I've decided to give her 30 days notice, as we can"

I've been sacked from a small telco too. They told me I was no longer profitable for them. It was worded in such a way that it went to my junk email folder and I lost that phone number completely (too late to port it to a new carrier)

Re: I emailed the CEO of T-Mobile and he killed my contract

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The title seemed negative to me (I thought he complained and the CEO said "we're done with you!"). But really, the T-Mobile CEO was helping -- the author wanted out of his contract (well, out of the $200 fee). (EDIT: The original title was "I emailed the CEO of T-Mobile and he killed my contract, no joke")

The title did seem negative, and I was surprised to find that someone actually had a positive experience with T-Mobile. I was a T-Mobile customer off and on for about 7 years total. For the last contract I had signed with them, I made sure that I would be able to get out of my contract if I A: moved due to a military PCS, or B: Moved due to getting out of the military. The T-Mobile rep at the store assured me that I…

> The title did seem negative, and I was surprised to find that someone actually had a positive experience with T-Mobile.

When was this?

I was a long-time T-Mobile customer until a few years ago, and I always had excellent customer service experiences with them.

The only reason I switched was because I moved to NYC, and they had terrible reception here at the time - I couldn't place calls in my own bedroom.

Even then, though, we were able to break our entire family contract (which I believe we had only just re-signed a couple of months before) without paying an ETF[0].

[0] This is despite the fact that (a) I was the only one in the family plan who was in NYC, and (b) my zip code was in their coverage map (which means that they had no legal obligation to let me off the contract).

I've been considering going back to T-mobile; if their customer service really has gone downhill in the last few years, maybe I'll think about AT&T instead....

Re: I emailed the CEO of T-Mobile and he killed my contract

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Reporter: For $200, I will write a nice article about you. CEO: Deal

I'm not sure if this is true. The picture accompanying the article shows the reporter using what looks like his personal email address [1]. I guess he could have signed it with his company and job title information. Either way, I don't think one anecdote is enough to change my view that all wireless companies are horrible.

[1] http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/blog/2013/03/t-mobil...

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