Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Show HN: govuptime.com

govuptime.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

51–60 of 181 posts

Re: Show HN: govuptime.com

#51

Post by thatrailsguy »

dandelany wrote: post #45
thatrailsguy wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got to ask one of the other guys where he got the data. It's available via json in our project here: https://github.com/dvito/govuptime

Thanks! If anyone is interested in my data, there's a CSV & JSON in the github and the shared Google Doc is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsyXWqYXia4PdGl... Looks pretty similar to yours, mostly... Mine is less-complete at the moment but also tries to break some agencies down by sub-agency (eg. IRS-specific stats within the Dept. of Treasury). If anyone would like to contribute, let me know and I…

I talked to dvito, he said he compiled it by hand, so he might incorporate your data into ours.

Re: Show HN: govuptime.com

#52

Post by muzz »

thatrailsguy wrote: post #25
Fuzzwah wrote: post #4

I chuckled at the "A SysAdmin would be pissed." line and then checked the source to see if there was any javascript which was going to change this line as the uptime % dropped lower and lower. I was disappointed there wasn't, but perhaps it is some dynamic magic that happens on page load or something....

That's a great idea.

I don't get the downtime comparison. In government, it's not the result of an unplanned outage that is being addressed to bring the system back up. Rather our governmental "sysadmins" decided to bring the system down, and can simply decide when to bring it back up.

Re: Show HN: govuptime.com

#54

Post by guelo »

dreamdu5t wrote: post #17

It'd be nice to see a percentage of the Federal government shut down. I heard it's only around 18%.

Just going by the rough employee counts it would be 40%, 800k furloghed out of 2 million total. This whole business of forcing "essential" employees to work without pay, which would be illegal for any other employer to do, is keeping things from getting out of control for now.

Re: Show HN: govuptime.com

#55

Post by khawkins »

arscan wrote: post #7

Ah, that chart on the bottom is on a log scale. I wasn't expecting that... and if I didn't look closer I would have completely misinterpreted it (for example, it appears that the DoD is mostly shut down).

It's downright deceitful, in my opinion. The entire page is trying to exaggerate the significance of the shutdown.

Re: Show HN: govuptime.com

#56

Post by jaggederest »

muzz wrote: post #52
thatrailsguy wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a great idea.

I don't get the downtime comparison. In government, it's not the result of an unplanned outage that is being addressed to bring the system back up. Rather our governmental "sysadmins" decided to bring the system down, and can simply decide when to bring it back up.

Downtime is downtime - if you're measuring service reliability the planned or unplanned nature of it being offline doesn't really come into play. When people say five 9s, they don't mean "except for when you decide to take it offline".

Re: Show HN: govuptime.com

#57

Post by nucleardog »

VladRussian2 wrote: post #32
hartator wrote: post #3

Do you think they have some kind of SLA, you get your money back a la amazon EC2 ? :)

not until Bezos becomes President. How about Government-as-a-Service? (I mean for regular citizens :)

Read "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson, if you haven't.

Re: Show HN: govuptime.com

#59

Post by VladRussian2 »

nucleardog wrote: post #57
VladRussian2 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not until Bezos becomes President. How about Government-as-a-Service? (I mean for regular citizens :)

Read "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson, if you haven't.

thank you, sounds interesting about brainstem BIOS/etc... , while other staff (i looked up from Wikipedia):

" The federal government of the United States has ceded most of its power to private organizations and entrepreneurs.[3] Franchising, individual sovereignty, and private vehicles reign (along with drug trafficking, violent crime, and traffic congestion). Mercenary armies compete for national defense contracts while private security guards preserve the peace in sovereign, gated housing developments. ... . The remnants of government maintain authority only in isolated compounds where they transact tedious make-work that is, by and large, irrelevant to the dynamic society around them."

sounds very similar to USSR/Russia around 1989-92. It were a fun times :)

Re: Show HN: govuptime.com

#60

Post by officemonkey »

guelo wrote: post #54
dreamdu5t wrote: post #17

It'd be nice to see a percentage of the Federal government shut down. I heard it's only around 18%.

Just going by the rough employee counts it would be 40%, 800k furloghed out of 2 million total. This whole business of forcing "essential" employees to work without pay, which would be illegal for any other employer to do, is keeping things from getting out of control for now.

Point of technicality, it's not "essential," it's "exempt from furlough."

There are plenty of government functions that are "essential" that have been mothballed for the shutdown. For example, there's no money for Federal Highway Grants, so the people who manage Federal Highway Grants are furloughed. When there's no funding, there's a lot fewer people needed.

The "exempt from furlough" employees constitute a much smaller pool of activities: those that can not be stopped. For example, FEMA employees that are responding to TS Karen, Border Patrol agents, TSA employees, VA Hospital workers.

Post reply on HN