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Re: Show HN: govuptime.com

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Post by VladRussian2 »

csomar wrote: post #40
hartator wrote: post #3

Do you think they have some kind of SLA, you get your money back a la amazon EC2 ? :)

What I understood (not an American citizen) is that your money (tax payer) has run off (actually it's a quite of a negative balance). So no, you won't get any money back. You probably should pay your due bills.

you're mistaking Continuing Resolution (Congress giving President(Exec Branch) weekly(or whatever) allowance - current drama) for Debt Ceiling (the source of the money for the Continuing Resolutions - next show coming in a couple of weeks)

Re: Show HN: govuptime.com

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Post by thatrailsguy »

ANH wrote: post #35

There are a lot of contractors sitting on the sidelines, too, made to take leave or, if they don't have leave, they go without pay. In other words, the "man hours lost" is probably much higher.

But very hard to calculate. If we had a solid source of information on this, I could add it.

Re: Show HN: govuptime.com

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Post by dragonwriter »

VladRussian2 wrote: post #41
csomar wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I understood (not an American citizen) is that your money (tax payer) has run off (actually it's a quite of a negative balance). So no, you won't get any money back. You probably should pay your due bills.

you're mistaking Continuing Resolution (Congress giving President(Exec Branch) weekly(or whatever) allowance - current drama) for Debt Ceiling (the source of the money for the Continuing Resolutions - next show coming in a couple of weeks)

> you're mistaking Continuing Resolution (current drama) for Debt Ceiling (next show coming in a couple of weeks)

They aren't separate issues. Part of the current drama is that: 1) A sizable portion of the Republican congressional delegation is demanding separate votes on, first, a CR that would be linked to various policy demands and, second, a debt ceiling increase (to which, presumably, additional policy demands would be attached), while 2) The White House and a sizable portion of the Democratic congressional delegation are calling for a single "clean" (independent of extraneous policy changes) vote on continuing funding and a debt-ceiling increase.

Re: Show HN: govuptime.com

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Post by dandelany »

thatrailsguy wrote: post #24
dandelany wrote: post #15

Nice dashboard :) Out of curiosity, where did you get the data re: who is furloughed from which departments? I have been working on a similar data graphic but had to collect that data in a Google Doc by hand with a couple colleagues from the OMB's list of contingency plans. I'd be curious to compare my data with yours. FWIW I'm working on visualizing it with a treemap instead of bar charts - my progress is here but s…

I've got to ask one of the other guys where he got the data. It's available via json in our project here: https://github.com/dvito/govuptime

Thanks! If anyone is interested in my data, there's a CSV & JSON in the github and the shared Google Doc is here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsyXWqYXia4PdGl...

Looks pretty similar to yours, mostly... Mine is less-complete at the moment but also tries to break some agencies down by sub-agency (eg. IRS-specific stats within the Dept. of Treasury). If anyone would like to contribute, let me know and I'll make you an editor on that doc (my email is in my HN profile or on that github project).

Re: Show HN: govuptime.com

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Post by krapp »

javert wrote: post #33

The federal government is operational, so the text at the top of the page is politically dishonest. We still have a federal government that is taking care of national defense, among a number of other things. "Non-essential" services have been suspended, while "essential" are still operational. Frankly, I'd like it if it stayed this way. The government shouldn't tax-and-force in "non-essential" areas.

>"Non-essential" services have been suspended, while "essential" are still operational.

I see quite a few departments on this list of suspended or partially suspended services which I wouldn't consider "non-essential": http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/09/politics/government-s..., such as the Consumer Product Safety Commission, Department of Labor, CDC, EPA, EEOC, FDIC and most of the USDA.

Re: Show HN: govuptime.com

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Post by CodeMage »

javert wrote: post #33

The federal government is operational, so the text at the top of the page is politically dishonest. We still have a federal government that is taking care of national defense, among a number of other things. "Non-essential" services have been suspended, while "essential" are still operational. Frankly, I'd like it if it stayed this way. The government shouldn't tax-and-force in "non-essential" areas.

Why, no, I don't really need to get an SSN, but thank you for asking! I guess it's not really essential to me and my family... [1]

Seriously, though, why are people popping up like mushrooms saying how it would be much better to get rid of stuff the government currently does, without proposing to actually replace it with something? I recommend reading Yegge's "Have you ever legalized marijuana?" [2]

[1]: http://www.socialsecurity.gov/shutdown/

[2]: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2009/04/have-you-ever-legali...

Re: Show HN: govuptime.com

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Post by VladRussian2 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #44
VladRussian2 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you're mistaking Continuing Resolution (Congress giving President(Exec Branch) weekly(or whatever) allowance - current drama) for Debt Ceiling (the source of the money for the Continuing Resolutions - next show coming in a couple of weeks)

> you're mistaking Continuing Resolution (current drama) for Debt Ceiling (next show coming in a couple of weeks) They aren't separate issues. Part of the current drama is that: 1) A sizable portion of the Republican congressional delegation is demanding separate votes on, first, a CR that would be linked to various policy demands and, second, a debt ceiling increase (to which, presumably, additional policy demands w…

well, not going to argue whether Lord of the Rings or the Dragon Tatoo Girl is a one or three separate books each.

Though "Hobbit" becoming 3-movie series would undoubtfully generate more money this way, so it seems Republicans is right on the money here :)

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