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Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Post by gizzlon »

Freaky wrote: post #26
arethuza wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is even less appropriate on a server OS - I have no idea what they were thinking making Windows Server 2012 use the same touch oriented start menu replacement nightmare.... [Having to use a demo VM that has 2012 installed at the moment and I'm finding it incredibly annoying].

Been using 8 for about a year and have no problem with the start screen without a touch interface - the workflow is pretty much identical to 7: Press the Windows key and type part of the name of what you want, with the bonus that it's significantly faster at giving results. If you do end up having to select something in the menu, you now have more space to see what's available and modifying the layout to match your u…

yeah, but that's not how I use 7. I click the "pinned" icon in the taskbar. (It's not as fast as a keyboard short-cut, but it's good enough.)

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Post by arethuza »

Freaky wrote: post #26
arethuza wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is even less appropriate on a server OS - I have no idea what they were thinking making Windows Server 2012 use the same touch oriented start menu replacement nightmare.... [Having to use a demo VM that has 2012 installed at the moment and I'm finding it incredibly annoying].

Been using 8 for about a year and have no problem with the start screen without a touch interface - the workflow is pretty much identical to 7: Press the Windows key and type part of the name of what you want, with the bonus that it's significantly faster at giving results. If you do end up having to select something in the menu, you now have more space to see what's available and modifying the layout to match your u…

"you now have more space to see what's available"

Actually, you don't - on the server I am using there is an (otherwise excellent) Microsoft product installed that prefixes all of it's menu items with the same name so all you see is a number of items with the same logo and "Really long product name...." and to find out which one is which you have to hover the mouse over them, which rather defeats the purpose of the whole exercise.

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Post by abraxasz »

72deluxe wrote: post #19
aw3c2 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Manual window management on Windows can be awful. With decent window managers one can hold keys (alt in my case) and then drag or resize windows easily by dragging the mouse. They snap. And you can have more key combos for things like snap to left/right, maximise, minimise, always in front, etc. Ever since getting used to this (in XFCE), using windows in Windows feels incredibly annoying and infuriating.

Windows 7 onwards has keyboard shortcuts - WinKey + cursors moves the windows to snap to half of the screen (top, bottom, left, right) and learn the Alt-Space-then X to maximise and Alt-Space then R to restore. If you happy using the mouse, Windows snap to the edges of the screen. There is also a utility you can get for shortcuts very similar to the Mac OSX ShiftIt tool but I can't remember the name of it!

There are many of them. I use Spectacle. You can move windows to the right / left / top / bottom, maximize it, send it to another monitor, etc..

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Post by pedalpete »

I did my own design idea on the next version of windows, but didn't go so far as calling it "Windows 9" http://pedalpete.github.io/windows_idea/

This design is much 'nicer' than mine, and probably more progressive. I would have liked to have seen what was returned in the search, and the layout of a search.

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Post by gebe »

gizzlon wrote: post #31
Freaky wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been using 8 for about a year and have no problem with the start screen without a touch interface - the workflow is pretty much identical to 7: Press the Windows key and type part of the name of what you want, with the bonus that it's significantly faster at giving results. If you do end up having to select something in the menu, you now have more space to see what's available and modifying the layout to match your u…

yeah, but that's not how I use 7. I click the "pinned" icon in the taskbar. (It's not as fast as a keyboard short-cut, but it's good enough.)

You can still do that though.

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Post by Freaky »

gizzlon wrote: post #31
Freaky wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been using 8 for about a year and have no problem with the start screen without a touch interface - the workflow is pretty much identical to 7: Press the Windows key and type part of the name of what you want, with the bonus that it's significantly faster at giving results. If you do end up having to select something in the menu, you now have more space to see what's available and modifying the layout to match your u…

yeah, but that's not how I use 7. I click the "pinned" icon in the taskbar. (It's not as fast as a keyboard short-cut, but it's good enough.)

So then what's the problem? That works exactly as it did before.

And the first ten do have keyboard shortcuts - Win-0 to Win-9.

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

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Post by jpswade »

spdy wrote: post #2

Am i the only one who does not like "touch" on a desktop/laptop. It is not the revolutionary input method that makes everything magical. I want to think in boxes (desktops) not a fluid streams of desktop space. We need something else for the desktop.

Touch really lends itself to interfacing with objects.

Using a mouse, in particular is a little bit foreign to our natural instincts.

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