Live data from Hacker News

Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

eiskis.net

1–10 of 98 posts

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

#2
Am i the only one who does not like "touch" on a desktop/laptop. It is not the revolutionary input method that makes everything magical. I want to think in boxes (desktops) not a fluid streams of desktop space.

We need something else for the desktop.

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

#3
"Manual window management is awful. Windows 8 ditched windows in favor of fullscreen apps."

Wrong. Manual windows management is just what a professional needs. The window manager will never know what is the best position and size for your programming editor/environment. It will never know where is the best position and size for your preferred debug window. And how to place and size your browser windows for API documentation.

Sure, a typical computer user needs only a full-screen browser window. But when you're really trying to get work done, Microsoft's "new" concepts are just wrong.

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

#4
Manual window management is awful. Windows 8 ditched windows in favor of fullscreen apps. Traditional desktop window paradigms are powerful but obsolete.

In any multi-monitor situation living without manual window management is awful. What they need to do is to offer a choice instead of forcing users down a specific path.

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

#5
Although this is a much better looking concept than what is currently available in Windows 8 I still do not understand how it solves anything for people who actually need to do development on these machines. I would hate to have to do development in an IDE such as Visual Studio or Eclipse while being restricted to this sort of interface.

Trying to force a tablet interface on a desktop machine is simply not acceptable. It makes matters even worse when you look at a server operating system such as Windows Server 2012. That is simply the biggest FAIL for an interface on a server OS I have ever seen.

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

#7
post #2

Am i the only one who does not like "touch" on a desktop/laptop. It is not the revolutionary input method that makes everything magical. I want to think in boxes (desktops) not a fluid streams of desktop space. We need something else for the desktop.

It is even less appropriate on a server OS - I have no idea what they were thinking making Windows Server 2012 use the same touch oriented start menu replacement nightmare....

[Having to use a demo VM that has 2012 installed at the moment and I'm finding it incredibly annoying].

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

#8
post #2

Am i the only one who does not like "touch" on a desktop/laptop. It is not the revolutionary input method that makes everything magical. I want to think in boxes (desktops) not a fluid streams of desktop space. We need something else for the desktop.

You're definitely not the only one.

Honestly, I feel like it's a break in my momentum and flow of creativity (that really sounds pretentious, but it's true) to move my hands from keyboard to screen. It's not like keyboard and mouse where both forms of input are on the horizontal plane.

I rather liked the idea behind the Nintendo DS where inputs are available on both the horizontal and (semi) vertical plane. If a touchpad can be made sufficiently intuitive and comfortable enough to serve as both keyboard, touchpad and display screen, I'm in.

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

#9
"Manual window management is awful. Windows 8 ditched windows in favor of fullscreen apps. Traditional desktop window paradigms are powerful but obsolete."

Just NO NO AND NO, I can't be the only one who hates the new Windows interface, I want to be able to place my windows where I want them not be forced to use full screen for everything, or rely on some automated way to place them, I know better than the OS how and where I want my windows.

Sorry but I had to get that out of my chest, I can't deal with the new Windows interface, it annoys me.

Microsoft please stop trying to force a tablet/touch interface into a desktop computer it just doesn't make any sense.

Re: Unnoficial design concept for Windows 9

#10
Am I right in thinking with this design you can only have one app as a point of focus at a time? So assuming I'm doing development, I can't be in my IDE, with a browser open on a particular stack overflow question, while having the app I'm debugging open in front of it all and some other app also in view showing diagnostics?

Instead, I'd have to flick back and forth between the apps like a headless chicken?

[Edit] Actually, take his example apps as a suggestion. He's running VLC to watch star trek, but can't watch it at the same time as say using the browser. In a traditional window set-up, you can just set VLC to stay on top and overlay a portion of the screen while you can continue doing something else (like using the browser).

Although the concept looks pretty, it almost seems to be a step backwards in available functionality.

Post reply on HN